Babies and prams in Pubs!

[henryb]

This thread seems to have descended into the domain of trolls venting abuse on other social groups. The only hope is for someone to start a thread about cycling on the pavement or a Waitrose on LL.

[helena handbasket]

Sue - (tu)

[the-e-dealer]

The Trouble is if there was a Waitrose on LL they would all cycle to it ON THE FLIPPIN PAVEMENT.

[Marion OHalloran]

I think if yummy mummies or yummy daddies want to take the children to the pub, - the pub should have a particular area for the children to play. This way everyones space can be respected, especially for those who want a quiet drink or a lunch meeting or such...

Personally I don't think it is the place for children, I brought up three of my own children and child minded for 23years and thoroughly enjoyed the parks and one o'clock clubs and groups. That is what chidrens upbringing should be about! Just my opinion and it has been good enough for generations past!

[hellosailor]

Marion OHalloran Wrote:

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> I think if yummy mummies or yummy daddies want to

> take the children to the pub...

God this phrase is getting tired. yawn. just Yaaaaaawn.

[Breton]

Most of the posts on this thread seem to be about the parents needs rather than the childs but some might argue that it's great for the booze industry to have the innocents become accustomed to the smell of alcohol at such an early age. Further, there also seems to be something not quite right about the kids having to witness their 'yummy mums'being ogled at on a weekday afternoon by some loner downing a pint.

[Horsebox]

Breton Wrote:

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> there also seems to be something not quite right

> about the kids having to witness their 'yummy

> mums'being ogled at on a weekday afternoon by some

> loner downing a pint.

No need to make it personal :(

[KidKruger]

Breton Wrote:

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> there also seems to be something not quite right

> about the kids having to witness their 'yummy

> mums'being ogled at on a weekday afternoon by some

> loner downing a pint.

Excuse me, I am not a loner.

and

My kids have to 'witness' their Yummy Daddy being oggled by the ladies. I'm sure it's a chore for them.

[Breton]

I fear you missed the point Kidkruger. Oh dear.

[Tarot]

JimmyMc1311 Wrote:

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> Are any other adults getting a bit sick of pubs

> being filled to capacity with yummy mummies and

> their darling little offspring? I always grew up

> thinking that pubs were places where adults

> socialised but last Saturday afternoon in LL, 3

> separate pubs (and also the lovely Rye!) were like

> an advertisement for Mothercare. Prams and

> buggies everywhere and toddlers running about as

> if they were in the playpark. So my message to the

> yummy mummies...if you are going to spend an

> afternoon in LL with your girlfriends drinking the

> pub out of chardonnay, please please please hire a

> babysitter!

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Yummie mummys, Specsavers for you my lad, they are old soaks, giving kids colds.

[jimmyay]

i could rant all day about this topic........

many a weekend looking forward to having a nice pint and lunch in herne hill or east dulwich pubs then having it thoroughly spoilt by screaming babies and toddlers at the bar, and ignorant parents. extremely annoying.

[hellosailor]

jimmyay Wrote:

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> i could rant all day about this topic........

>

>*yawn* don't bother.

[anabonbon]

It's not just the pubs, it's on the buses, sidewalks, and in shops and cafes, too. The spoilers who think the fact they have a baby gives them the right to act like bullies over space with huge prams, bags, and all. I actually like kids in pubs and hope it doesn't change. Dogs, too, if they are somewhat trained and hygenic. Same goes for babies. Unfortunately they are often not. So the management could ask people to please reasonably control their dogs and children or be asked to leave. Kids will be kids and they will go into places they shouldn't and make unreasonable noises. I don't mind that at all; I even like it; It's the rude, selfish parents I have a problem with. A little consideration on both sides always goes a long way towards a good outcome.

[DulwichFox]

Kids get bored in pubs so they get into mischief. Their parents seem to ignore them, so this

Big Family Meal thing is nonsense.

Bit like people who take their dog to the Supermarket and leave them tied up outside.

Fox.

[nannyjuice]

I VENTURED TO THE 'ACTRESS'one sunny saturday afternoon long ago.(august)with my dog.I put us both in the corner,i was surrounded by yummy mummys.All of them decided to get up and move away from my non- offensive 13year old collie cross and myself.Felt totally unwelcome and did not enjoy our pizza that we shared,Before any one starts i have three children and two gran-babies.And yes i do feel my dog was quieter and less trouble (HE WAS NOT ALLOWED TO RUN AROUND)And no i never took my children to the pub where people were consuming alcohol and would not dream of taking my gran-babies to one.There are other nicer enviroments plenty of them to take young children.Also i find it quite distgusting that mothers and fathers are drinking whilst in charge of children.

[Marie81]

nannyjuice: sorry that you and your dog were made to feel unwelcome when it sounds like your dog was so well behaved, unlike when I take mine to the pub and they lay right in the middle of the walkway refusing to move making people walk over them?we tend to sit outside pubs now!! Do you think that both parents would be drinking alcohol whilst in charge of their children? Can any of the parents who have posted here say that this would be the case or would just one parent be drinking as I would have to agree with you that would be very wrong if both parents were consuming alcohol!!

I personally don?t mind children in pubs, but don?t think it?s much fun for the children! If it?s a case of meeting friends for a coffee why not go to one of the many coffee shops or meet at the park so your children can have fun and enjoy the playground? However I think parents should be allowed to bring their children into a pub for lunch with the family and not have to be made like they are unwelcome. But of course the children should be sitting down at the table and not running around the pub especially if food is being served as an accident could happen and then whose fault would it be if say hot soup went over your child?the server or the parent for not controlling their children?!

No one needs to be made to feel unwelcome, there are some pubs geared more towards families and some of the old fashioned pubs which are more suited to adults having a quiet drink. In other words there are enough pubs in the area to suit everyone :)

[KidKruger]

Marie81, of course both (or the only parent, when it's a bunch of Mums) parents are drinking. There obviously are exceptions but this is the norm.

My point earlier was that children and alcohol environments is not a healthy mix - regardless of whether the parents are drinking, though they usually do, because that's WHY they're in the pub - to satisfy the need for alcohol. The parents would be there anyway, so the visit to the pub is not for or about the kids.

My point is not anti-parent or anti-kid, it's pro-kid, it's about owning the welfare of your children.

[ratty]

This is brilliant. Keep going.

[Dopamine1979]

Children in pubs have never really bothered me. If you get drunk enough their antics become quite comical.

[Beej]

I just came across the recent blog post by the illustrious South East London food critic Helen Graves of 'Food Stories' and she starts her recently released post with an amusing tirade against SE22 parents: for the full post go to http://helengraves.co.uk/2011/10/viet-van-east-dulwich/ but here's the opener:

"I must start by apologising to all local parents with young children because you will probably take offence to what I am about to say, which goes something along the lines of: get the hell out of East Dulwich or at least spread yourselves out a bit so I don?t have to fight my way into every shop and cafe and shout to hear myself speak over the noise of your precious little darlings (why do people let their kids scream and run around in shops and restaurants like its a cr?che?) Let?s not forget those ankle biting, space invader buggies. How many times have they savagely scraped my Achilles tendon? How many times has no-one even apologised? Can you not just wait or deploy a spot of good old common courtesy rather than using your buggy as a battering ram? You can tell this makes me angry and I?m sorry but this is my blog and I can rant if I want to."

ouch!!

[henryb]

Makes mental note to ram pretentious braying foody type in the ankle with bugaboo bee at next available opportunity.

Perhaps Helen should stay in Peckham where the kids are better behaved.

[zeban]

Haha! brilliant. Those buggies are definitely used as battering rams at times, I got on the bus the other day and a woman behind me was pushing her pram into my legs. I did actually expect an apology as she could see what she was doing but when I looked at her she didn't say a thing!

[henryb]

You could have just given her a hand.

[hellosailor]

zeban Wrote:

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>I did actually expect an

> apology as she could see what she was doing but

> when I looked at her she didn't say a thing!

Maybe she melted on the spot

[zeban]

If she'ld been saying sorry or looked like she needed a hand of course I would have given it to her. I didn't look at her in anger I looked at her to see if she realised what she was doing as I thought she can't be but she looked at me, and carried on doing it without saying sorry. She was simply being rude unfortunately.