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I think normally 'social justice' is threefold - demands for progressive taxation play a part, but as with many arguments in the UK it's principally imported inappropriately from US bulletin boards.


Taxation in the US is demonstrably less progressive than in the UK, and so the focus loses its validity when it's applied to the UK where welfare, health and education play a very egalitarian role in society.


Conversely, 'social justice' is also heavily reliant on redistribution of wealth and property, something rarely pursued by successful communities as it disempowers the individual in favour of the state.


This has a failure rate so high that it's frankly surprising that any remotely educated adult would espouse it.


However, the idea was supported by John Rawls, who was notable for other very bright ideas such as equality in the eyes of the law, and democratic consensus. Most of these ideas were evidently agreeable, and at the time he was fighting 1950s and 60s American extremist politics.


So I prefer to think the redistribution of wealth and property was the product of his age, and leans toward a revolutionary fringe that doesn't seem so valid today.


Mainly though, it's another boring American idea that's inappropriate for an essentially socialist UK society.


I do note though, that Rawls thought humanity to be both reasonable and rational - something that UDT would probably not agree with - so he'd be an unwilling bed partner to UDT's foil hat defensiveness.

"Conversely, 'social justice' is also heavily reliant on redistribution of wealth and property, something rarely pursued by successful communities as it disempowers the individual in favour of the state.


This has a failure rate so high that it's frankly surprising that any remotely educated adult would espouse it. "


Man, you are on FIRE lately. The happiest and in many cases most successful communities (your Scandinavians, Germans etc) have all leaned more towards that model than us, uk or Singapore.


Is not impossible

Erm.... Taxation in SG is very progressive, just not substantial.


Wasn't my choice anyhow, just seems to work quite well.


Gonna have to check whether Scandis spend wisely. Last time I checked there was a political rebellion about siding with the Krauts, or anyone in Europe. Great if you've changed your mind.


Neither society believes in redistribution of wealth or property.

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