scor46 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Yesterday afternoon I watched a man walk out of Sainsburys with two stolen boxed televisions. The thief ran into the car-park and was apprehended by a single security guard, who performed what can only be described as an act of heroism of the highest order ? an act, I have to say, that goes way beyond the call of duty and certainly way beyond his pay-scale. I later found out the Sainsburys security guard was called Sam. This thread is dedicated to a Sam.I was sitting in Starbucks when I witnessed a man walking out of the middle doors of Sainburys- alarms flashing, sirens going etc ? with a boxed tv in either hand. (Digital tv's have handles so they are easy to carry) He continued out into the carpark and was met by a security guard. The thief, in his late 20's, was as rough as an oinkers backside and equally as ugly. He was tattooed up, well built and was certainly someone you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley. As you can imagine, the thief did not want to be stopped by the guard and so ensued what can only be described as a ruckus of the highest order. The security guard wasn't the tallest and he was a little over weight yet he got hold of the thief by the scruff of the neck and refused to let go. The thief started headbutting, punching and kicking the guard and to be honest it was sickening to watch. The two went toe to toe for about 3 minutes until eventually the security guard finally went down ? even then he was still trying to grab hold of the thief. The thief started kicking the guard in the head while he was on the ground. The guard was out cold but the idiot, who was covered in blood still kicked him once more in the head. At this point a couple of us jumped on the guy and wrestled him to the ground, holding him there until the police arrived. Sam the security guard confronted the maniac on his own ? fought him, giving as good as he got until the degenerate thief finally overpowered him. It was an act of bravery that most people will never witness in their entire lifetime.Sam the Sainburys security guard, I take my hat off to you sir. You are a hero. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapt.Kopter Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 all praise to Sam, but why did it take three minutes for you and another to intervene? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
computedshorty Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Good on you Geordie. I was going to throw my Zimmer under him but was not quick enough.Sale now on of two soiled T.V.s at slight discount.I have an idea that the thief might be back to see those who intervened. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebedee Tring Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 At least the OP and another person did intervene, which isn't what usually happens in such circumstances. All credit to them. I hope that the dodgy geeza goes daahn for an appreciable stretch for a nasty bout of GBH at the very least, especially if the security guard was badly injured. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scor46 Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 Good question - and in my own defense, I was sitting in Starbucks using my laptop ? the fight started at the far right hand corner of the carpark. I sort of noticed it then sat back down. You kinda think that once the man had been stopped, all of the guards, managers etc would quickly get involved. It was probably a minute or so later that I looked up to see that it was still going on. I left my laptop on the table and walked over to help the guard. I witnessed some of the punch and kicks as I approached the man. When I got there (2 or 3 minutes after the man had left with the tv's) the guard had just fallen to the ground. I could have got involved earlier I suppose but I didn't realise it was so serious. I didn't want to 'rubberneck' if you get my meaning. You think its been dealt with so you don't get involved. Not an excuse Kapt. Kopter, just a fact. If I had of realised I would have got there sooner. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Kapt.Kopter Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> all praise to Sam, but why did it take three> minutes for you and another to intervene?xxxxxxxThat's very unfair.Nobody knows what they would do in a similar situation.I would always have said that I would intervene, but I was once on a bus where a young man was attacked by two others and virtually kicked downstairs.The bus driver did nothing and nor did anyone else.Instead of going to help I retreated to the back of the bus out of the way.I'm not proud of this but all I can say is that there is a self-preservation instinct which kicks in, and you might not react in the way you would predict.We're not all heroes.And good for Sam, but given that he could have been killed or very badly hurt (and possibly is badly hurt) you might also argue that it would have been preferable to let the guy, who presumably would be caught on CCTV, get away with the televisions and let the police deal with it (once it was apparent that he was violently resisting). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonla Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Good for Sam and Scor 46 !!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapt.Kopter Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 @ Sue, actually I do know what I'd do, and Ive done it before...step in and help.I've helped a police officer and I've also stopped a mugging. If we all walk on by, we get the society we deserve. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebedee Tring Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 But Scor 46 did step in and help, Kapt.Korper. So why criticise him? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Yeah... seriously unnecessary criticism from Kapt.Kopter, who owes the OP an apology in my opinion. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Bravo Sam, and Scor!It isn't always easy to jump in to these situations. I have come to someone's aid in thge past, only to be told they were mates messing around, and that I should f**k off.Obviously in this situation, they weren't mates messing around. My question (to no one inparticular) is why the hell wren't the other guards running to help!?!? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillywoman Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Thankyou Sam the security guard, and Thankyou Scor, for your bravery, courage and moral fibre and using them in the defence of a small part of our community - Thankyou. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
camberwell70 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 How sad.All for a couple of poxy TVsTomorrow's junk. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kford Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 camberwell70 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> How sad.> > All for a couple of poxy TVs> > Tomorrow's junk.But today's heroin Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapt.Kopter Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 @ Zeb and Jeremy, he only stepped in after two or three minutes, once Sam had taken a vicious assault.if either of you were being assaulted would you want aid asap? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scor46 Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 K.K, luckily there were cctv cameras in the car park and I?m sure that they will be viewed and used to convict a man of theft and assault. That same video footage will also show how much of a hero Sam the security guard really was and perhaps, if it?s of any interest, how the maniac was eventually wrestled to the floor and how he was held there until the police arrived. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Kapt.Kopter Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> @ Sue, actually I do know what I'd do, and Ive> done it before...step in and help.> I've helped a police officer and I've also stopped> a mugging. > If we all walk on by, we get the society we> deserve.xxxxxxxxWhilst this is true, it is also the case that some people who have stepped in to help have ended up dead.Some of them were the fathers of small children. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapt.Kopter Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 so heads down and hope its not me... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamath Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Does anyone know how Sam is? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I bet a few brave people filmed it on their camera phones!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbboy Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 probably on you tube by now? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian H Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Sue Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Kapt.Kopter Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > @ Sue, actually I do know what I'd do, and Ive> > done it before...step in and help.> > I've helped a police officer and I've also> stopped> > a mugging. > > If we all walk on by, we get the society we> > deserve.> > xxxxxxxx> > Whilst this is true, it is also the case that some> people who have stepped in to help have ended up> dead.> > Some of them were the fathers of small children.Perhaps Sam is the father of small children. Didn't stop him doing his bit. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Damian H Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Sue Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Kapt.Kopter Wrote:> >> --------------------------------------------------> > > -----> > > @ Sue, actually I do know what I'd do, and> Ive> > > done it before...step in and help.> > > I've helped a police officer and I've also> > stopped> > > a mugging. > > > If we all walk on by, we get the society we> > > deserve.> > > > xxxxxxxx> > > > Whilst this is true, it is also the case that> some> > people who have stepped in to help have ended> up> > dead.> > > > Some of them were the fathers of small> children.> > Perhaps Sam is the father of small children. > Didn't stop him doing his bit.xxxxxxHis small children might have regretted him doing his bit if he'd ended up dead.As it is, it sounds like he could be rather injured.It's not as if he was saving someone's life - he was stopping someone taking two TVs, who the police would probably have caught later on anyway. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 We send young fathers to war Sue. Sam was doing his job and unfortunately like the Police and armed forces, it's a job that requires interaction with people who may be violent. The only question for me here is whether there were any other security guards on duty. I frequently only see one on duty at Sainsburrys and that may be the real issue here, where other staff members are (whilst presumably not being trained as such) expected to help that one security guard. I sincerely hope that Sam isn't too badly injured and recovers soon. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TillieTrotter Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Well done Scor46 and don't listen to the likes of KK, he obviously thinks he's some sort of Super Hero and just wanted to tell us about how he did a better job than you. He's probably got a bigger err...."car" than you too;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19882-hero-security-guard-sainsburys/#findComment-479957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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