tomskip Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Those photos are shocking. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzah Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Received this from the Dulwich estate. I can confirm that we do own the freehold and this site is leased to the Stonegate pub company. Legal action has already been put in hand for an eviction order but typically this can take some time to process, especially because of the holiday season. I have also asked the police what they can do to assist.Hopefully an order can be quickly obtained and if there is more that the police can do this would be very welcome indeed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffins78 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 That?s the van that was parked on Underhill- will images of the people help? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianjm Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Thanks tezzah, I have a very similar e-mail thread this morning via HML Andertons who are the managing agent for the adjoining flats. They are in contact with both the Dulwich Estate and Stonegate pub who are the leaseholder.Apparently there was an attempt made to move them on yesterday, this obviously hasn't happened (these people never seem to go easily), but the solicitors are doing their thing to get a court order to enable some progress, and Stonegate have a clean-up company ready to go in to clear the rubbish once they do go. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 When we passed on Sunday there were families with children sitting outside in there.Surely this rubbish is a health hazard, particularly for the children.Couldn't something be done from that angle (I have no idea what)? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules-and-Boo Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Well, I'm sorry - but when they moved into Peckham Rye park and the hospital and people complained - they were vilified for persecuting minorities.I'm all for letting people do their thing, but this is just ridiculous - and no comeback whatsoever. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xapis85 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Response I've received from Dulwich Estate says they are expecting them to move on today. We shall see..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider69 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 With no action taken regarding the mess that has been left behind.Someone else has to pay to clear it all up. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xapis85 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Apparently measures already in place to clear up when they're gone... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzah Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Well the smell is definitely getting worse, cannot open my Windows now which obviously isn't ideal in this weather. I have just seen two men just defecating next door to the portaloos that were placed there by coach company whilst the children play on the rubbish. The derelict Grove tavern was a bad enough site out of my bedroom window, but this is taking it to a whole new level. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianjm Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Apparently they told Stonegate and Dulwich Estates they'd be leaving yesterday, and then today. I think maybe they are stringing these people along, as is usual...This problem might take some time to resolve. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outthereman Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 They appear to be on their way.... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianjm Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Not so sure. There are still at least four caravans and more rubbish dumping occurred in the last 10 minutes. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xapis85 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Looks like they actually have gone!!Now how to get them to secure the site now...Email earlier from Dulwich Estate says "I am told that the travellers are intending to move on later today and if this is the case then plans are already in place to re-secure the site and to then arrange for the clearance of all the rubbish and refuse." but at 8.15pm the site will presumably be left unsecured as I can't imagine the plans are in place for out of hours? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianjm Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Blimey, they have! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xapis85 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Can't quite see from our window but there appear to be police officers and security types already on site. Fingers crossed!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicornic Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 So they have left but now are in the BT car park on lordship lane the other side of lordship lane estate just seen them go in there..... anyone know the number to report this Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelina Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 where next, I wonder? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzah Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Well they have been moved on, security on site now. Been told a clean up crew are coming in tomorrow to clear the dumped waste. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicornic Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Absolute nightmare i can see them all pitched up in the car park to bt from my balcony... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianjm Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 It's like whack a mole. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicornic Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Just wondering where they are going to dump their rubbish now? doesn't look like their is much room where they are parked now. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzy Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 They have now set up in the car park of the BT exchange on lordship lane Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianjm Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Fazzy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> They have now set up in the car park of the BT> exchange on lordship laneNot sure of the extent of the Dulwich Estate, wonder who the freeholder is in this situation. BT maybe? Is there a map of the extent of the Dulwich Estate online anywhere? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 ianjm Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> It's like whack a mole.Oh dear, I know I shouldn't, but that did make me laugh :)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/198188-caravans-moved-into-car-park-at-the-old-grove-tavern-pub/page/3/#findComment-1264549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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