Flush Lush

[Earl Aelfheah]

It's a mocking term for frothing, rage filled, ranty men - Who last time I checked, don't constitute a race.

[ed_pete]

And here I was thinking this thread was about getting the elusive Jah out of hibernation.

[Sue]

ed_pete Wrote:

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> And here I was thinking this thread was about

> getting the elusive Jah out of hibernation.

:)) :)) :))

[edcam]

You really need to check your white privilege if you think "gammon" is a racist insult.

[flocker spotter]

thread death spiral

[Loz]

edcam Wrote:

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> You really need to check your white privilege if

> you think "gammon" is a racist insult.

My irony meter just broke.

[Loz]

JoeLeg Wrote:

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> ?Gammon? is not racist. It really isn?t. It?s juvenile and idiotic but it doesn?t refer to all white people.

Are you really arguing that an insult that only applies to a subset of a race is no longer consider a racist insult?

That's quite a claim. Are you a defence lawyer for the EDL? "No, no, your Honour - my client was only referring to those actually wearing a burqa..."

[JoeLeg]

Whatever dude...And don?t compare me to the EDL. I?m not debating with someone like that.

[rendelharris]

No argument or defence from Loz against the fact that everyone disagrees with him, I note, just insults. It's richly ironic that someone who acts round these parts like a more erudite version of the Daily Mail, excoriating "Guardianistas" and "political correctness" in general, immediately starts whining and insulting people the minute his own demographic is on the receiving end.

[TE44]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/06/spycop-ex-wives-we-support-the-lush-campaign

It seems this campaign has brought into question the

Length of time this enqiry has went on without much

Answers, especially for the women involved in these operations. Above link is a view from one of the pollicemans wife who was married at the time her husband was involved with someone else whilst undercover. She is supportive of Lushs campaign.

[JohnL]

TE44 Wrote:

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> https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com

> /uk-news/2018/jun/06/spycop-ex-wives-we-support-th

> e-lush-campaign

>

> It seems this campaign has brought into question

> the

> Length of time this enqiry has went on without

> much

> Answers, especially for the women involved in

> these operations. Above link is a view from one of

> the pollicemans wife who was married at the time

> her husband was involved with someone else whilst

> undercover. She is supportive of Lushs campaign.

when I looked it doesn't look like it will finish until around 2023

Inquiry webpage

https://www.ucpi.org.uk/

[flocker spotter]

yes, this is one of the drivers on this subject- the deliberate obfuscation of the process by the UKG.

[TE44]

Thanks for link johnl, when legal proceedings take years like this, there should be transparency, where the public especially people who were personally involved can follow what the findings are. I was unaware of this enquiry until lushs campaign. Have read a little of link, clicked on a link within it where some papers of findings had restricting circulations when published.

[diable rouge]

JohnL Wrote:

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> when I looked it doesn't look like it will finish

> until around 2023

It needs a backstop, just a question of whether it's time-limited or not, and if is time-limited, they can't say when...:)

[edcam]

Spectacular lack of self-awareness there, Loz. Well done.

Loz Wrote:

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> edcam Wrote:

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> > You really need to check your white privilege

> if

> > you think "gammon" is a racist insult.

>

> My irony meter just broke.

[flocker spotter]

you can all ease off with the turbocharged seething red faced manfury and finger jabbing - Lush have dropped their campaign

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44413586

*and relax*

[JohnL]

But at the start of it I didn't know who Lush were and I didn't know about the Inquiry.

[Earl Aelfheah]

I thought Lush were a 90s indie band

[uncleglen]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> It's a mocking term for frothing, rage filled,

> ranty men - Who last time I checked, don't

> constitute a race.

(Is it sexist then?) There are plenty of rage-filled ranty men and women out there of all races- David Lammy is a good example

As far as the undercover cops are concerned- anyone who is undermining decent society by breaking the law and putting young people in danger DESERVE to be infiltrated if that's what gets the job done....and, of course, WE demand that the job gets done!

[flocker spotter]

a troll too far. you have jumped the shark on this one. tsk tsk tsk

[JohnL]

uncleglen Wrote:

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> WE demand that the job gets done!

Lush have noted your comment and have now resumed their campaign

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/13/cosmetics-chain-lush-resumes-undercover-police-poster-campaign

[JoeLeg]

>

> (Is it sexist then?) There are plenty of

> rage-filled ranty men and women out there of all

> races- David Lammy is a good example

And so are you.

>

> As far as the undercover cops are concerned-

> anyone who is undermining decent society by

> breaking the law and putting young people in

> danger DESERVE to be infiltrated if that's what

> gets the job done....and, of course, WE demand

> that the job gets done!

You sound more and more like Oswald Mosley with every post.

ETA - if you had half an ounce of awareness, you?d know that NOBODY has objected to the principle of undercover work. That?s a straw man set up by you alone.

What they had trouble with was the lies told by police officers in the course of that work and the extent to which the Met tried to cover it up afterwards. This isn?t about covert operations per se, it?s about the trustworthy ness of the police.

You once said you only read Private Eye. If so then you should be more au fait with the highly questionable police antics in these cases.

[rendelharris]

The far right are becoming more and more emboldened every passing day, they're not even bothering to try and dress up their nastiness any more. Storm's a-comin'.

What a coincidence that of all the "rage-filled ranty men and women out there of all races" uncle should choose to name one of Britain's most famous black men.