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the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> How many Dogs Savaged to Death By Children?



Well, you get your teens/youths who abuse there dogs and use them as weapons, so maybe not savaged but beaten and abused. A majority of dogs who savage children are usually dogs that have not been socialised/walked/trained/loved/etc sadly. There used to be a woman in the park years ago who was a childminder, she had 3 dogs also, one of her kids walked upto my dog who was laying in a puddle and stamped on her tail, I said "Don't do that! She could bite you if your hurt her" the woman said "Oh would she bite?" :'( My friend has a very small dog and since she has had her, at least 3 children have just walked over and picked her up with the parents looking on and doing nothing, children need to be educated too, I love it when they ask to pet my dogs and let them :))

Agree with all First Mate and Bonnie Bird have said! The fact of peeing footballers is well known amongst regular users of the park. And yes, just to confirm, I have one large dog and one tiny dog. I keep them on the lead where I am told to including the garden at the entrance and only let them off for a run on the field. I pick up their poo. I stop them from making any noise in the garden. I do not let them run up to people and I don't let the big one off the lead when the park is full of toddlers in case she intimidates them. I make sure they don't chase runners. And most of all, I NEVER walk them off the lead on the street - a new trend which I loathe. As has been said many times before, most of my fellow dog walkers are the same and it's a very small minority who flout the rules. Please don't penalise us because of the small minority who let the rest of us down.

bonniebird Wrote:

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> Can't do right for doing wrong milliemum, damned

> if you do, damned if you don't! Just keep on doing

> your thing :)-D you never know,the- e- dealer may

> take a pic of you controlling your dogs! Wouldn't

> that be nice!


What a lovely thought BB :-)

The Oval is planted several times a year and as such is probably one of the most labour-intensive areas of the park.


The displays are always a pleasure to behold and I don't think it's too much to expect that hard work to be respected and not let dogs run amok in there.

Agree-dogs shouldn't be running amongst the flower beds in the Oval-but neither should children. I regularly see parents allowing their children to do just that-perhaps the sign needs to include children as well. I walk every day in the park and the vast majority of dog owners are very responsible, my biggest gripe is the peeing footballers & the litter they leave behind. Also the rubbish/food left by people's picnics.


I feel safe walking in the park knowing so many dog walkers are about keeping it safe, as in the winter or on a cold day it is often only dog walkers or joggers in the park. As the OP subject heading perhaps we need "more dogs in Peckham Rye Park"

curlykaren Wrote:

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> the footballers peeing in the bushes near colyton

> road entrance to the park is REALLY offensive,

> yuck! It happens ALL the time, I won't walk over

> there any more on football days, creeps me right

> out.


Now curleykaren, how many times did you have to witness this to be really offended? Oh,and why was it offensive? Was it men or women or a mixture of both? A well known Olympic athlete pee'd on worldwide television during the London Marathon as the picture shows. The fact that they are in bushes suggests they are trying to be discreet.


http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00136/SNN1809G_136516a.jpg

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> curlykaren Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > the footballers peeing in the bushes near

> colyton

> > road entrance to the park is REALLY offensive,

> > yuck! It happens ALL the time, I won't walk

> over

> > there any more on football days, creeps me

> right

> > out.

>

> Now curleykaren, how many times did you have to

> witness this to be really offended? Oh,and why was

> it offensive? Was it men or women or a mixture of

> both? A well known Olympic athlete pee'd on

> worldwide television during the London Marathon as

> the picture shows. The fact that they are in

> bushes suggests they are trying to be discreet.

>


I've seen this lots of times too. It's horrible when you're walking past with kids. And not all them are trying to be discreet. Some just kneel down beside the pitch and do it, with everything on view.

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> curlykaren Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > the footballers peeing in the bushes near

> colyton

> > road entrance to the park is REALLY offensive,

> > yuck! It happens ALL the time, I won't walk

> over

> > there any more on football days, creeps me

> right

> > out.

>

> Now curleykaren, how many times did you have to

> witness this to be really offended? Oh,and why was

> it offensive? Was it men or women or a mixture of

> both? A well known Olympic athlete pee'd on

> worldwide television during the London Marathon as

> the picture shows. The fact that they are in

> bushes suggests they are trying to be discreet.

>

> http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00136/S

> NN1809G_136516a.jpg


Your response has absolutely NO credibility WHATSOEVER.......Karen is not referring to "well known Olympic" athletes who are caught out on a huge run.....Us girl park-users manage to make it to the loos - on the other side of the park. Come on....just cos you're a bloke you have to pee up a tree, while throwing away your chicken bones...?



Horrible for who? The kids would have no inhibitions about peeing anywhere if they weren't conditioned. Are you talking about your kids? Where did they come from then I wonder? If you feel uncomfortable about it say so, just don't say it's because of the kids.

Alan,


Just to be clear, are you saying you are in favour of public widdling, because either it's okay or it is not. If okay, imagine if everyone did it? There you walking along and the woman in front of you squats to have a piddle- but it's only natural you say. Why stop there, let's get people defecating in the park too.


The footballers have access to the same loos as everyone else, why not use them? Moreover, those I have seen widdling make no attempt at all to be discreet. Most people, whether it's down to conditioning or not, do not particularly want to be confronted by some sweaty footballer pissing against the nearest tree. I think it's bad manners and uncalled for, when there are public loos so close by. If some one is genuinely caught short that is different, but they'd make a real effort to stay out of view. The guys I have seen just let it all hang out for all to see.

The footballer I was referring to, did it up the big tree to the left of the gate, he made no attempt to hide it, I see it on most weekends mainly the bushes to the right, if I had children, I would be so angry if my child saw it, its not nice and like tallulah71 said, there are toilets in the park, dirty gits. Oh, don't get me started on the spitting...........

Whether or not one is offended by it, child, adult or otherwise, the fact that the footballers aren't thinking that other park users MAY be offended i think shows a pretty bad attitude which they should be pulled up on, as much as for the actual act per se.


On the dogs point, mine has been nervy of kids since she was a pup ever since an incident with a child screaming at her, then hiding, and then jumping out and running screaming toward her again. The mother did nothing but look terrified of my puppy when she, entirely naturally, started barking. We had been walking along minding our own business and my poor puppy simply thought she was being ambushed.


She's a breed which I specifically chose because they are so kind natured and gentle and good kid dogs, but because of that incident there is now a slight question mark in my mind. So, dog owners do get some very negative consequences from non dog-friendly types, it isn't all one way traffic by any means.

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