Request for comment: Collapse of the U. S. A.

[Loz]

I think SJ is saying that he concluded that NN was a random nutter 5 pages ago and was loudly wondering why it had taken so long for the rest to work this out.

As one who gave NN the benefit of doubt, I'd have to say: fair point.

[StraferJack]

Yes Alan. Because I say something I expect people to obey

Or

I don't understad why intelligent posters are wasting their time and im asking why

You decide

[Alan Medic]

Well if you put it like that then I'd say the way you worded it, it's more like the first option. How do you conclude that intelligent posters are wasting their time when by your criteria they're obviously not intelligent? Rhetorical.

[StraferJack]

Most intelligent beings get caught up in silly nonsense that annoys them. The people I was addressing are in no way less intelligent for my interjection (see loz admission above)

But you, my Irish chum, are looking for a squabble where there is none

[New Nexus]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Well if you put it like that then I'd say the way

> you worded it, it's more like the first option.

> How do you conclude that intelligent posters are

> wasting their time when by your criteria they're

> obviously not intelligent? Rhetorical.

They do not want intelligent discourse, only compliance.

[LadyDeliah]

I think Nexus has done a pretty good job of defending himself against some pretty personal and abusive attacks.

I don't understand why you feel that it is ok to call someone a nutter, just because their view of what is happening in the world does not accord with your own.

I'm feeling quite sick to be honest.

If you don't agree with Nexus, make an alternative argument, don't call him/her a nutter and throw personal insults.

[LadyDeliah]

The bottom line is that there is a massive imbalance between the US economy and the Chinese economy.

And in a capitalist society whether you sort the banking shit out or not, the fundamental problem is that to make a profit, the elite have to exploit the workers. They drive done wages to increase their profits and in turn this affects the amount of crap the workers can buy.

Therefore, even without the massive thefts by the banks, the whole system is bolluxed in anycase!

[StraferJack]

Lady d

You shouldn't assume I disagree with everything nexus says

Im not calling him a nutter because I disagree with him

[New Nexus]

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> The bottom line is that there is a massive

> imbalance between the US economy and the Chinese

> economy.

>

> And in a capitalist society whether you sort the

> banking shit out or not, the fundamental problem

> is that to make a profit, the elite have to

> exploit the workers. They drive done wages to

> increase their profits and in turn this affects

> the amount of crap the workers can buy.

>

> Therefore, even without the massive thefts by the

> banks, the whole system is bolluxed in anycase!

You are correct there is a great disparity between the US and China.

The US is in debt to China, approximately 5 trillion dollars, sooner or later China is going to want to cash in that IOU.

I think the euro will collapse first. People will run to the dollar, that being the leper with most fingers, this will be a temporary reprieve,

[New Nexus]

Nicole Foss

[StraferJack]

It's like being 14 again isn't it

[richardbach]

nutter

[LadyDeliah]

We are likely to be as poor as I was when I was 14in the near future.

Why do you think all the big corporations are buying up all the farmland all over the globe? I think it's because they want to go into bio fuels as the oil gets more and more expensive making the cost of food massive. Sod gold and diamonds, farmland is where it's at!

We should stop going on about the bankers, the collapse of the financial system is inevitable anyway, we need land reform before we all end up having to eat our neighbours!

[LadyDeliah]

richardbach Wrote:

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> nutter

You forgot the spelling scrambler Richard.

[New Nexus]

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> We are likely to be as poor as I was when I was

> 14in the near future.

>

> Why do you think all the big corporations are

> buying up all the farmland all over the globe? I

> think it's because they want to go into bio fuels

> as the oil gets more and more expensive making the

> cost of food massive. Sod gold and diamonds,

> farmland is where it's at!

>

> We should stop going on about the bankers, the

> collapse of the financial system is inevitable

> anyway, we need land reform before we all end up

> having to eat our neighbours!

Sorry, more bad news, take a look at Monsanto terminator seed technology, it?s been decimating the third world for a few years now.

The seed gen turns off after one harvest. You then have to buy more from Monsanto.

[LadyDeliah]

Monsanto are bastards of the highest order, but that wasn't the point I was attempting to make really, Nexus.

Just saying that on top of the collapse of the financial systems and possibly capitalism as a whole, there are the compounding features of the ecological crises.

[Loz]

LadyD,

It was because of your post a few pages ago that I gave NN a chance. I tried, I really did. But when you a faced with a random garbage generator with which any sort of intelligent debate is impossible, then I'm sorry, there is only so much I can take. When someone just churns out cut-n-paste information they don't really understand together with undergraduate level, mindless political sloganeering, there is just no conversation to be had.

Now I suspect that you are only defending him/her as their politics are - as far as can be established - reasonably aligned with your own. If a similarly reality-challenged poster came on and started hopping into immigration by cutting and pasting Daily Mail and BNP propaganda, I somehow doubt you would be so charitable. In fact I dare say the dread word 'nutter' just might emanate from your keyboard.

[New Nexus]

Loz Wrote:

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> LadyD,

>

> It was because of your post a few pages ago that I

> gave NN a chance. I tried, I really did. But

> when you a faced with a random garbage generator

> with which any sort of intelligent debate is

> impossible, then I'm sorry, there is only so much

> I can take. When someone just churns out

> cut-n-paste information they don't really

> understand together with undergraduate level,

> mindless political sloganeering, there is just no

> conversation to be had.

>

> Now I suspect that you are only defending him/her

> as their politics are - as far as can be

> established - reasonably aligned with your own.

> If a similarly reality-challenged poster came on

> and started hopping into immigration by cutting

> and pasting Daily Mail and BNP propaganda, I

> somehow doubt you would be so charitable. In fact

> I dare say the dread word 'nutter' just might

> emanate from your keyboard.

Nice try,

Placing intelligent discourse in the same posting as extremist views like ?Daily Mail and BNP propaganda? Guilt by association.

Very old school.

Did you ever do work for Mr. T Blair? WMD's = Iraq

Transferring information from your brain to a keyboard and thus end up on this forum, that?s not a form of copy and pasting is it.

I bet you think IQ is a level of intelligence.

Try as I may, I simply cannot think as slow as you.

[LadyDeliah]

Loz Wrote:

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> LadyD,

>

> It was because of your post a few pages ago that I

> gave NN a chance. I tried, I really did. But

> when you a faced with a random garbage generator

> with which any sort of intelligent debate is

> impossible, then I'm sorry, there is only so much

> I can take. When someone just churns out

> cut-n-paste information they don't really

> understand together with undergraduate level,

> mindless political sloganeering, there is just no

> conversation to be had.

>

> Now I suspect that you are only defending him/her

> as their politics are - as far as can be

> established - reasonably aligned with your own.

> If a similarly reality-challenged poster came on

> and started hopping into immigration by cutting

> and pasting Daily Mail and BNP propaganda, I

> somehow doubt you would be so charitable. In fact

> I dare say the dread word 'nutter' just might

> emanate from your keyboard.

I don't think I would have said nutter, but I may not have been very nice. Actually I don't get upset by offensive people as much as other people do, so I would have probably tried to explain why I thought they were wrong.

But I think Nexus has had a few drinks and was pretty unpleasant in his/her post above, which diminishes his/her argument too.

So. I'm off for a pint!

:)-D

[Loz]

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> So. I'm off for a pint!

I've just cracked open a bottle of wine. So, cheers! :)-D Have a good one.

[StraferJack]

Maybe you do, maybe you dont. But only one poster has said they feel quite sick

[LadyDeliah]

It takes a lot SJ to get me to that state!

[Frankito]

I would like to see NN be all frivolous and comment on the kiddy car parking spaces in Sainsbugs or, the eternal joke thread. Surely he must have a sense of humour......>:D

[Alan Medic]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> Most intelligent beings get caught up in silly

> nonsense that annoys them. The people I was

> addressing are in no way less intelligent for my

> interjection (see loz admission above)

>

> But you, my Irish chum, are looking for a squabble

> where there is none

Alas you are looking for someone looking for a squabble. It isn't me.

[Alan Medic]

richardbach Wrote:

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> nutter

That's rich coming from you.