StraferJack Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 some quotes from the media - but from when? scroll down to see the years in question1) ? Parents at this time, unfortunately, do not take sufficient care in bringing up their children. They expect someone else to be responsible.?2) ?The passing of parental authority, the absence of restraint, the wildness of extremes, the confusion of unrelated liberties, the wholesale drift away from churches?3) ?a debate on a "disturbing increase in criminal offences", and speakers asserting that "our wives and mothers, if they are left alone in the house at night, are frightened to open their doors", and that "over the past 25 years we in this country, through misguided sentiment, have cast aside the word "discipline", and now we are suffering from it". Delegates fumed over the "leniency" of modern courts and the way that young people were "no longer frightened of the police".?From a great article in The Economisthere1) 19512) 19323) 1958 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt forauthority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in placeof exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of theirhouseholds. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. Theycontradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up daintiesat the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.400 BC ish - Socrates. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 "I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent onfrivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyondwords... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet andrespectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise[disrespectful] and impatient of restraint" 700 ish BC - Hesiod Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 "The world is passing through troublous times. The young people oftoday think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence forparents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk asif they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us isfoolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodestand unladylike in speech, behavior and dress."1274 - Peter the Hermit Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 "Enough already"2011 - Ted Max Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karter Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Ted Max Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> "Enough already"> > 2011 - Ted MaxLOLOL great.TM should be the PM. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laddy Muck Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 "Country going to the dogs"Just wondering what Woof's, Legalbeagle's and Artfuldogger's response(s) to that might be. (*inserts cheeky-looking-yellow-wotsit*). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Very good article, SJ. Thanks for linking. Some amazing quotes in there in the Pearson source material the writer uses. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 scathing, Ted. Scathing Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgley Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 ?If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ?This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.? Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear. Deuteronomy 21:18-21 ESV / 22 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 oh my days - I think the point of me starting the thread has been lostAnd ridgeley - you do know that quoting from the bible opens up all sorts of problems don't you? Especially books like Deuteronomy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardbach Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 then romuns wer always riting bakc to there famly an bleeting ab out how teh brits were oafish drunks whoo spend theit ime being awkwrd an loking for argumentsn and genraly being disrespecful towerds roman aothurity nohting changes lol Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 I took it as a bit of a joke. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardbach Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 i teink many of teh roiters wer stoned wen they wer loting and fihgting the police exept if was teh chrionic that they wer stoned on and not stoned with briks an roks lol Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgley Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 SJ wrote------------------------------------oh my days - I think the point of me starting the thread has been lostAnd ridgeley - you do know that quoting from the bible opens up all sorts of problems don't you? Especially books like DeuteronomySJ that was not my intention I was just looking at all the quotes from thread like Socrates the Bible is just as old and it has some interesting points too this is not some Bible thumping excise:) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonaloochieB Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 OH MY DAYS???!!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 STARKEY! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Great OP.....shows just how relative everything is. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonaloochieB Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 #I don't know what's wrong with these kids today! Kids! Who can understand anything they say? Kids! They are disobedient, disrespectful oafs! Noisy, crazy, dirty, lazy, loafers! While we're on the subject: Kids! You can talk and talk till your face is blue! Kids! But they still just do what they want to do! Why can't they be like we were, Perfect in every way? What's the matter with kids today? Kids! I've tried to raise him the best I could Kids! Kids! Laughing, singing, dancing, grinning, morons! And while we're on the subject! Kids! They are just impossible to control! Kids! With their awful clothes and their rock an' roll! Why can't they dance like we did What's wrong with Sammy Kaye? What's the matter with kids today!# Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 well I wanted to avoid the usual religious versions so as to keep ridgely on board Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosieH Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Ridgley Wrote:------------------------------------------------------- he is a> glutton and a drunkard.? Then all the men of the> city shall stone him to death with stones. Sheee-it. I'm done for.I like the tautology though. That should be a book of the OT. Tauterology - each pleonasm more brutal and bloodthirsty than the last. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgley Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 You guys crack me up:) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonaloochieB Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 In the biblical sense? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgley Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 ?That it I have open up a can of worms? I am going to get bible jokes or hammed for this:) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Was that Deuteronomy? I could have sworn that came straight out the book of Kelvinmckenzie Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/19076-country-going-to-the-dogs/#findComment-466822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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