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> As said before keane was is, and will always be a

> coont that nobody likes. Oh and by the way Viera

> didn't ever break a players leg or maim another

> player on purpose, unlike the coont Keane. An

> accomplishemnt of which I'm sure Keane is very

> proud. Tw@t.

>



Atila - by "maim"ing I take it you mean alf-inge Haaland - Roy Keane did not end Haalands career with THAT tackle - Haalands career was ended by an injury to his other leg. So while Keane was guilty of many bad tackles, just to be clear, he did not end Haaland's career. If you checked your facts before making these statements you would know that.


H?land is often remembered for Roy Keane's feud with him. In 1997, when Manchester United were losing to Haaland's Leeds United team, Keane attempted to tackle H?land late in the game. In the process, Keane injured his anterior cruciate ligament. As Keane lay prone on the ground, H?land criticised Keane for the tackle and suggested that he was feigning injury to avoid punishment. Keane was booked as he was stretchered off the field. Three and a half years later, in 2001, Keane fouled H?land, high up on his right knee. Initially, Keane was simply fined ?5000 and received a 3-match ban. However, in his biography he admitted that he wanted to "hurt" H?land as revenge for the taunting he received years previously. After this revelation, Keane received an additional 5 game ban, and ?150,000 fine. H?land retired through injury, co-incidentally to the other knee, in 2002.[1]

Agreed, kpc. It seems as if we may at last have a team able to compete at this level. Although its easy to get carried away! If McLeish spends wisely next month then who knows? That trip to Europe may just happen! KRO



Kpc

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> Almost half-term and we're 7th rather than 17th

> which I'd have accepted. Unbeaten in nine games,

> our run coincides with regime change at St Andrews

> (about which I had my doubts) which seems to have

> spread an enthusiasm throughout the club. McLeish

> conducts himself with quiet dignity and the team

> are playing for each other and showing great

> commitment. Staying up remains the first priority

> but having bagged 28 points so far goes a long way

> towards that target. Who knows, seems like may

> have to dust off my old AA Road Map of Europe yet

> - seems like there's a few new nation states since

> our last foray. Now for a good whisky and a chorus

> of Keep Right On..........

I'm pleased for Birmingham City but I have to say I'm slightly surprised as Martin O'Neill was streets ahead of McLeish when they were both in Glasgow.

Now they are both in Birmingham now and I guess MON is still ahead but with McLeish on the much smaller budget its difficult to say which is the bigger achievement.

McLeish comes across as a nice gut but always has been a winner too, so well done to him. Birmingham as a city of 4? teams has never seen it so good - or not for a while anyway.

I don't like to say it but I rate O'Neill highly as a manager and if McLeish does the same at Blues then I will be happy. Yes Mick if the baggies go up without blues or wolves going down then we may see a mini revival in football fortunes in west midlands which is a long time coming...
The competition between the clubs has to be a good thing. Blues fans have been quietly saying that since Randy Lerner took over from Deadly Doug Ellis that he has done a lot right at the Vile. With both managers, you can expect an honest approach and commitment. So far, our new board appears to be on the right track. Nobody's getting carried away with our current run and the realistic aspiration now is to finish comfortably above relegation. Let's see what happens in the January window.

matthew123 Wrote:

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> I thought McLeish had the upperhand in Glasgow -

> didn't he win a few doubles and also reach CL QF?



Get a life Matt........I think he drank a few doubles. I'm taking your point as a wind up so I'm stopping there.

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> matthew123 Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I thought McLeish had the upperhand in Glasgow

> -

> > didn't he win a few doubles and also reach CL

> QF?

>

>

> Get a life Matt........I think he drank a few

> doubles. I'm taking your point as a wind up so I'm

> stopping there.


Cmon Matt.....say something....

We've had quite a few performances where people have said 'as long as you play like that' or 'you're too good to go down'

Liverpool and arsenal games sprin to mind among others.


Let me assure you that we don't keep playing like that. We've been here before and instinct tells me that this year we're going down. If we get everybody back from injury soon and remain largely injury free for the rest of the season then we'll do it, but again not convinced by that one.


Without someone like Tevez to rally the team (for it was vey mug a team effort that kept us up that season) I see us stumbling despondently to relegation.

There's never a good time to go down, but if we do I see us more the way of Southampton, Leeds and Forest before them who at least show there's life after doldrums.

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> >

> > As said before keane was is, and will always be

> a

> > coont that nobody likes. Oh and by the way

> Viera

> > didn't ever break a players leg or maim another

> > player on purpose, unlike the coont Keane. An

> > accomplishemnt of which I'm sure Keane is very

> > proud. Tw@t.

> >

>

>

> Atila - by "maim"ing I take it you mean alf-inge

> Haaland - Roy Keane did not end Haalands career

> with THAT tackle - Haalands career was ended by an

> injury to his other leg. So while Keane was guilty

> of many bad tackles, just to be clear, he did not

> end Haaland's career. If you checked your facts

> before making these statements you would know

> that.

>

> H?land is often remembered for Roy Keane's feud

> with him. In 1997, when Manchester United were

> losing to Haaland's Leeds United team, Keane

> attempted to tackle H?land late in the game. In

> the process, Keane injured his anterior cruciate

> ligament. As Keane lay prone on the ground, H?land

> criticised Keane for the tackle and suggested that

> he was feigning injury to avoid punishment. Keane

> was booked as he was stretchered off the field.

> Three and a half years later, in 2001, Keane

> fouled H?land, high up on his right knee.

> Initially, Keane was simply fined ?5000 and

> received a 3-match ban. However, in his biography

> he admitted that he wanted to "hurt" H?land as

> revenge for the taunting he received years

> previously. After this revelation, Keane received

> an additional 5 game ban, and ?150,000 fine.

> H?land retired through injury, co-incidentally to

> the other knee, in 2002.[1]



You miss the point old son, he injured a player on purpose, that to me is unforgiveable. I stand by what I said about him.

Declan Wrote:

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> Sandperson Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Declan, I rest my case.

>

> Gobshite is too mild....


Wow, a one liner Groucho Marx would be proud of!!

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