Football Focus

[Atila Reincarnate]

Sorry I still don't get it. It may have something to do with the time this event took place, but I think going a season unbeaten and 49 games unbeaten is a far greater acheivenemnt especially given the quality of the game these days, and, although it pains me to say it, the Mancs acheivement of a treble in a season is a greater acheivement. So sorry I still don't get it.

[Mick Mac]

Well, I personally don't rate the MU one too highly Atila, it was a final MU deserved to lose. However on the other hand for a team to be able to win a european final without Scoles and Keane is a great achievement, and the semi final win over Juventus (Zidane etc) was something else.

Arsenal's 49 games is a great domestic achievement, but ultimately it came to nothing.

I'd put Liverpool's Bob Paisley team top of the UK teams as they dominated home and in europe over an extended period.

However in terms of what you can achieve in one season, there's a lot to say about the team that achieved something first, ahead of the others, against the odds, and won the Scottish League, FA Cup and League cup treble at the same time.

As Bill Shankly looked up to Jock Stein, he said, "Jock - you are immortal" and he knew his football Atila. He did what all the other managers wanted to do and he did it first.

[Atila Reincarnate]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Arsenal's 49 games is a great domestic

> achievement, but ultimately it came to nothing.

>

You are clearly missing the point. To go 49 games unbeaten is an acheivement which I don;t think will be equalled in my life time or many life times to come. Sorry, I still don't get it.

[Sandperson]

Wow MM, you don't rate the treble? you have gone down in my estimations. I think the treble and the unbeaten Arsenal season are two of the best acheivements we will ever see. I think the Lisbon Lions did amazingly well and it was a good first for a a UK side but, as has been said, if they wanted true greatness it needed to be repeated. I actually think that Aberdeen's Cup Winners cup win almost matches it when you consider the stature of the team and I'd probably put Villa and Forest up there with them too.

[Mick Mac]

Forest achieved a record unbeaten run and during that run won the league and european cup. There has to be a tangible reward to hang your hat on.

[Keef]

Isn't it funny how Mick thinks the Celtic acheivement is best, Sandperson thinks it's the Man U treble, and Atila thinks it was the Arsenal unbeaten run...

What teams do you guys support again? ;-)

PS. Mick I was only joking with my last post, Inter clearly were not a poor team, I just knew you'd bite.

[Atila Reincarnate]

I think the phrase "agree to disagree" was made for situations like this.

[Sandperson]

Hang on I bigged up Aberdeen (admittedly my Scottish team), Forest AND Villa! :))

[Atila Reincarnate]

I still think 49 unbeaten and the treble is a greater acheivement.

[Sandperson]

And Arsenal!

[Mick Mac]

Keef Wrote:

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> PS. Mick I was only joking with my last post,

> Inter clearly were not a poor team, I just knew

> you'd bite.

I did not think I did "bite" Keef - I tried to turn your point to my advantage.

Anyway all agreed - we all support great teams.

SP - I do rate the treble - I don't rate the MU performance in the final so much.

[Keef]

Plus they were the best team around that season. I think Man U have had better seasons, when they've been more up against it. in 1999, no one was really going to touch them. (f**kers)

[DaveR]

Completely impartially I am nominating Ipswich Town, UEFA Cup winners 1981

Come on you blues!

[Sandperson]

Sorry, yes, Tractor Boys under Sobby. Great stuff too!

[Jah Lush]

Thing is. I remember watching that match (Celtic v Inter). It WAS an amazing achievement. It was a first as was Spurs being the first British to team to win a european trophy (European Cup Winners' Cup in 1963) and the first team to win the "double" in the last century.

All of the achievements mentioned above - Man Utd's three trophies, the Arsenal's 49 game unbeaten run etc etc you have to take on board the times they were played in and the impact they had at the time and of course the sort of financial backing that certain clubs have these days.

[Atila Reincarnate]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Arsenal's 49 games is a great domestic

> achievement, but ultimately it came to nothing.

>

I missed this earlier, during this run we won the league unbeaten, how does that ultimately amount to nothing?

[????]

West Ham winning the World Cup anyone?

[Sandperson]

Ah Quids, but according to all our other posts they needed to repeat the feat and I'm afraid that Bobby Moore's light fingers put paid to that.....:))

[Jah Lush]

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> West Ham winning the World Cup anyone?

I had a feeling you were going to mention that.

[red devil]

There was only one Bobby in that World Cup, and that's the one with the comb over not the perm...;-)

[Atila Reincarnate]

Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher admits his side need divine intervention to help their title ambitions following another defeat at the weekend. "We've got to get through it and, as I'm doing, pray to God that at the end of season there will be something worthwhile for what we've gone through," he said. Taken from BBC Sport website

You couldn't make it up.

[matthew123]

He needs to pray Rafa keeps his job because the next Manager will axe him and Dirk Kuyt at the drop of a hat

[Bluerevolution]

I will donate ?20 to the cause ! ;-P

[red devil]

I think Kuyt is one of your best players. Like Ronaldo, players seem to be played out of position in order to accommodate Torres. I thought Kuyt played a much different role at his last club, he certainly wasn't shy at banging the goals in. He even reminded me of Hughes (*spits*) when I first saw him play...

[Narnia]

All these ?20 notes Blue! Have you settled your last account and balanced your books before going on a spending spree again?