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[SCSB79]

Emerson Crane Wrote:

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> > > Aston Villa 1 v Man Utd 2

> > > Man City 3 v Birmingham 1

> > > Newcastle 2 v Fulham 0

> > > Tottenham 1 v Blackburn 1

> > > West Ham 2 v Blackpool 2

> > > Wigan 1 v West Brom 2

> > > Wolverhampton 2 v Bolton 1

> > > Stoke 2 v Liverpool 2

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> No, but nor do I post sectarian poison on here

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> some, your sectarian rubbish isn't.

Hardy har har - Yawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

As per my request to MM, please define ?sectarian? and link it back to any of my comments that exemplify the definitions.

[Keef]

Why don't all of you just stop this before it gets silly.

Football people, football!

[SCSB79]

Keef Wrote:

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> Why don't all of you just stop this before it gets

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> Football people, football!

Keef - it would be great if we could keep it to football... but was there any need for him to post such cr*p?

Am I supposed to just sit and let them label me sectarian and racist and yet have no evidence to back that up?

It is far too easy for people to throw these slurs around without challenge.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Doesn't change the fact that keef is right

Emerson - he was teasing you about how bad your predictions were for the weekend (and for the record they were shocking - but I doubt either you or I care after yesterday's results) - but there was no need to resurrect that argument again.

So stick to the football - ir doesn't matter what was said over a week ago, let it lie

[Keef]

For what it's worth, I agree with you, but this could just go on and on.

[SeanMacGabhann]

well IF anyone has been banned before they would be silly to risk getting banned again

and IF someone else hasn't had a ban before, it would be a shame to see it happen. But I'm not going to let the football thread descend into that name-calling nonsense again

so anyone tempted , leave any sectarian disagreements in the past. Capiche?

[Emerson Crane]

I think you'll find I didn't kick this nonsense off, so perhaps your comments need to be directed elsewhere. I thank you for your attention.

[Mick Mac]

Thought it might be a good time to bet on chelsea. But was surprised to see they are still odds on despite man u and arsenal in close attendance.

[sakwhita]

What are Man U missing? An on form Rooney obviously... do they have the strength in their squad to go all the way?

They ran Chelski close last season, but I am not sure if they can do it again... are the suffering from Liverpool-itis and drawing too many games so early on?

[Emerson Crane]

Too early, maybe, to write them off. But they don't have that aura about them anymore, but then nor do Chelski, or Arsenal, or anybody else for that matter. Most teams are overly reliant on a couple of players and if they aren't in the strating line up OR don't perform, they look average. I personally don't think they're the force they were when we had royal battles with them in the late 90's and early noughties, but nor are we.

[matthew123]

For me Liverpool, United, Chelsea and Arsenal have weaker teams than they have had for a long time. Whilst the chasers have beefed up their line-ups to close the gap that has been helped by the gradual drift of the very elite from England. I think that drift will continue particularly to Spain if Madrid and Barcelona agree to share more of the TV money with rest of La Liga.

I'd expect PL to remain the most exciting but I fear the heyday of the PL has passed.

[Emerson Crane]

PL is no longer the most exciting league for me and hasn't been for a couple of season, La Liga now has that mantle.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Call me biased but I'm going to say Arsenal look stronger than any of the last 4 seasons - and with the current crop of youngsters all maturing the trend for this club is up. That doesn't mean we will win anything of course but I'm more optimistic that I have been in recent years

[Emerson Crane]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> Call me biased but I'm going to say Arsenal look

> stronger than any of the last 4 seasons - and with

> the current crop of youngsters all maturing the

> trend for this club is up. That doesn't mean we

> will win anything of course but I'm more

> optimistic that I have been in recent years

We certainly have a bit more steel, but not sure that will be sufficient to clinch anything this time round. Too many injuries have been a concern. If we'd have won our games gainst Toon and WBA w'd be four points clear. I didn't expect us to beat Chelski, but the others were home bankers in my eyes.

[Emerson Crane]

How best to describe Englands performance? Three words seem apt. Poor, Inadequate, Woeful. Yep that just about covers it.

[Jah Lush]

Good job it was only a friendly. At least some of the kids got an outing. I think we can learn a lot from this game. For me Gareth Barry's time is up in an England shirt. The big plus was Andy Carroll's assured performance and Peter Crouch coming on and doing what he does best in an England shirt, sticking the ball in the net.

[Emerson Crane]

How hacked off are Liverppol with the FA after Stevie G picks up a knock which will put him out for around a month. If an Arsenal player had been injured I'd have been very put out. Same old FA, no consideration for the clubs that pay the wages. Mind you not happy that Nasri played 90 minutes just before the big game on Saturday.

[Emerson Crane]

Arsenal 2 v Tottenham 1

Birmingham 1 v Chelsea 2

Blackpool 1 v Wolverhampton 2

Bolton 1 v Newcastle 1

Man Utd 3 v Wigan 0

West Brom 1 v Stoke 1

Liverpool 1 v West Ham 0 (might struggle without Stevie G to fire them up)

Blackburn 2 v Aston Villa 1

Fulham 1 v Man City 2

Sunderland 1 v Everton 1

[red devil]

Arsenal 2 v Tottenham 2 (Spurs let 2 goal lead slip in last 10 mins, thereby saving the nation the sight of Bentley prancing around in his Hom's)

Birmingham 0 v Chelsea 0 (get some early Christmas shopping in)

Blackpool 3 v Wolverhampton 2 (Olly delays resignation for time being)

Bolton 3 v Newcastle 1 (18 certificate)

Man Utd 2 v Wigan 1 (Roonster to the rescue, two goals in last 10 mins)

West Brom 2 v Stoke 1 (Baggies back on the up...boing boing)

Liverpool 1 v West Ham 2 (Parker and Noble boss midfield)

Blackburn 0 v Aston Villa 0 (It's grim up North)

Fulham 2 v Man City 1 (Hughes wants it more than Mancini)

Sunderland 0 v Everton 1 (Black Cats get reality check)

[Emerson Crane]

In the aftermath of the debacle at WEmbley on Wednesday night, Terry Venables yet again reveerts to the tired argument that its all the fault of Johnny Foreigner, too many foreign imports bad for the national game bullshit. We've heard it all before. If he was as good as he thinks he is, he would admit that the failure in this country to take on the coaching and training methods used with geat success abroad is the problem, not foreign players. Lazy and lame excuse trotted out every time England fail to live up to the hype whipped up by the media. Can't wait for Euro 2012!!!

[Jah Lush]

I like Terry but there is a distinct lack of coaches in this country compared to abroad. Our players can only learn from Johnny Foreigner's techniques. They tend not to drink either which is always good if you're an athlete.

Arsenal 2 Tottenham 2

Birmingham 1 Chelsea 1

Blackpool 2 Wolverhampton 1

Bolton 2 Newcastle 1

Man Utd 2 Wigan 0

West Brom 2 Stoke 1

Liverpool 2 West Ham 1

Blackburn 0 Aston Villa 2

Fulham 3 Man City 1

Sunderland 2 Everton 1

[Keef]

I've said it before, but more English players need to show a bit of bottle, and move aboad to play week in, week out in other leagues.

[Keef]

Interesting, Blackburn taken over by an Indian family. Hope they sack Big Sam ASAP.

[????]

Well. A fair few 'foreighn voices' think that England should try and play to the strengths of the Premiership/English game and going 'continental' is soooooooo yesterday....and been proved pretty much not enough to push England to the top tier. I think they have a point.

[SeanMacGabhann]

When do we think "foreigners" started to dominated the Premiership? managerially and player-wise?

And 1966 apart, when have England ever been a genuine force in world football?

hmmmmmm. I don't think top-tier English football in any era is enough