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barrymarshall Wrote:

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> Acutally, MP, AB1s have a strict over-21s policy,

> meaning they attract a substantially older crowd.

> Last year, I was asked for ID in one, and I'd only

> gone in there one afternoon for a coffee (I was

> 27).



and at the other end of the scale - i was turned away with a baby at lunchtime when trying to get some food, so that should please some

pk Wrote:

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>

>

> and at the other end of the scale - i was turned

> away with a baby at lunchtime when trying to get

> some food, so that should please some


Some Forumites better be careful what they wish for, then ...

Alan Dale Wrote:

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> All Bar One is the new Foxtons.

>

> All the Foxtons chatter has subsided now they're

> in. We needed a new hot topic.

>

> If there's a choice then I prefer Bar HAHA!




That maybe so but we (the Peckham Town Centre people and the Peckham Pubwatch people) would welcome them into SE15 with open arms.


Send them my way if they are looking for a space in a town centre near here.

_Franklins should forget the green grocers, and have one site for their food, and the other just as a pub. I think that would be pretty cool, as I don't like drinking there because I feel like I'm drinking in the waiting area of a food place, without buying any food._


That sounds like a very good idea. I haven't been in there for a long time but this is precisely the reason why.


Anyone recall the original Franklin's, and the woman (I presume Ms Franklin) who ran it?

It wouldn't be the end of the world if AB1 came to ED. Not to everyones taste (including mine) but then nor is Cafe Nero but somehow there are enough people in ED to patronise them and keep them afloat. Lets face it, ED continues to evolve. It was a cool Victorian suburb 100 or so years ago and then a crap one for a while until relatively recently. What can you do but vote with your feet? Okay, I guess it feels quite cathartic to have a winge about it on the EDF but it's not a Franklins or a CPT and assuming those patrons continue to get what they want then they wont be in danger of disapearing.


Perhaps a longer term concern would be a saturation of watering holes with LL becoming a destination binge drinking zone from surrounding areas and turning ugly on a Friday and Saturday night. Then as the competition starts to bite prices will drop and business will have to rely on bigger volumes because of the lower margins. We'll just become another Tooting High St.

"Perhaps a longer term concern would be a saturation of watering holes with LL becoming a destination binge drinking zone from surrounding areas and turning ugly on a Friday and Saturday night. Then as the competition starts to bite prices will drop and business will have to rely on bigger volumes because of the lower margins. We'll just become another Tooting High St."


I'm afraid I don't agree with this. For years ED (not just, but including LL) was oversubscribed with retail premises, particularly just after Sainsburys opened, and that did very little for the quality of shops. It maybe swinging in completely the opposite direction in terms of the price and type of goods etc, but I'd far rather that previously tatty and empty retail premises are used to make the place lively and interesting, and not just replicate the (lack of) style in surrounding areas. However, I do acknowledge that there has to be a careful balance, but there's no reason at all why LL should ever become like Old Kent Road or Tooting High Street (although THS does have some excellent Asian food places), both of which have been pretty rowdy places for a long time.

Mike, don't you ever ponder like that again d'ya hear!!!


As an aside, when on my stag do, having done a doughnut and reverse parked the barge in to a tight space, we "hit" Oxford for the Friday night. Having tried a couple of the classy trendy places, we were all thoroughly bored. We then happened upon an O'Neil's with a live covers band on, and thought we'd pop in for a pint. It was absolutely hilarious, we all danced (or moshed maybe more accurate) and had a fab time!


Sometimes you get a great night where you least expect it.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> Mike

>

> I don't think that's true - AB1 wouldn't choose

> that location as they insist on footfall

>

> The Woolwich looks to be the likeliest spot


Too small - ABO insist on barns.

Spoke to Rodney Franklin this evening at Franklin's (funnily enough) and suggested, re the tyre shop, that:




His reply: "You're having a laugh aren't you?"


Which, in true tabloid journalist style, can obviously be interpreted as "yes, definitely it will be open by Christmas."


Or maybe not.

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