Trouble in peckham?

[The Minkey]

I was on a 343 coming back from work earlier this evening. At Elephant, the driver said he was going to have to divert and go straight to New Cross Gate due to riots in Peckham. What he didn't say was that he was going to go there via Peckham High St.

As soon as we got to the High St, it was obvious there was trouble going on, down to the right by that burger place there were a load of police vans parked up in the road lights flashing and loads of people milling around. Unbelievably, the driver stopped the bus opposite the bus station and told us to get off as he was terminating. Most of us were still standing there trying to work out a route home when suddenly a mob congealed and started smashing in the windows of the big chemist on the corner just 20ft away. I still can't quite believe TFL would drive passengers into a riot and make them get off into it.

[richardbach]

DinkyToy Wrote:

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> LadyDeliah

>

> So, black-on-black gun crime is actually my fault,

> not theirs?

>

> Gang warfare is my fault, not theirs?

>

> Stop and search apparently used to target

> minorities disproportionatly. The fact that most

> muggings, knife crime and gun crime is carried out

> by minorities is entirely ignored.

>

> I work next to a similar aged black guy to myself

> - mid 30's single. He has a son from a previous

> relationship and I can guarentee he or his son are

> not out tonight on a family trip ripping flat

> screens from the window displays of Currys.

>

> This is not due to feelings of "having no stake in

> society." If you don't want to steal TV's, then

> don't. If you don't want to knife a person - then

> don't. It's called personal responsibility.

>

> This is feral children who have no fear.

tihs is a mad post i think

[LadyDeliah]

I liked the article. I didn't write it or slavishly agree with every point made.

[welshgirlinED]

Thanks very much maxxi!

[welshgirlinED]

Thanks very much maxxi!

[Curly]

Lots of posts here, but interestingly not one post on The Voice http://www.voice-online.co.uk/ ?hackney-war-zone?

[Tarot]

What is evident is the serious lack of police,so using the army would make up the shortfall.

This is anarchy no other excuse,fuelled by the internet and followed through by a load of stupid fools who are probably drug fuelled and pot cocky.

They do wear track suits and trainers, thats why those sports shops and chemist are being targeted.

These uneducated gang fodder will always be a problem.

Find out whose involved,cut their benifits off, throw them out of their council houses,cancel their college media grants

cancel their carnivals.

These people who disregard the areas they live in should be disregarded for any benifits other people have to work for.

The goverment should get their fingers out of there axxxs, stop dismantling the country and remember P.C Blakeloch .

Rubber bullets.

[Cas59]

Thats disgusytef sad times indeed

[DinkyToy]

In that case apologies for any offence, if caused.

[rebwec01]

ED update anyone??

[richardbach]

all queit been out pubs shut but hisar was stilopen nothing to wory bout

[Saffron]

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> I liked the article. I didn't write it or

> slavishly agree with every point made.

It gave an interesting p.o.v. Unlikely to ever be just one cause when things explode like this, tho historically recession = riots.

[karter]

A friend and myself walked the area to help out and kick some butt, one copper holding out the smashed up pharmacy on his own, post office door kicked in, Palmerston window boarded up,londis had 20ish youths in and breaking things up, all bars closed...

[Salsaboy]

Bromley has been hit, saw 3 kids with TV's under their arms legging it down the road and very strong smell of burning in the air. Lots and lots of sirens too.

[LadyDeliah]

Camden, Ealing, Tower Bridge, West End all subject to rioting and looting now.

[Saffron]

Just heard more sirens here too. Couldn't tell if they were headed south towards Frst Hill or east to Lewisham.

[Sue]

You OK, Minkey?

The Minkey Wrote:

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> I was on a 343 coming back from work earlier this

> evening. At Elephant, the driver said he was

> going to have to divert and go straight to New

> Cross Gate due to riots in Peckham. What he

> didn't say was that he was going to go there via

> Peckham High St.

>

> As soon as we got to the High St, it was obvious

> there was trouble going on, down to the right by

> that burger place there were a load of police vans

> parked up in the road lights flashing and loads of

> people milling around. Unbelievably, the driver

> stopped the bus opposite the bus station and told

> us to get off as he was terminating. Most of us

> were still standing there trying to work out a

> route home when suddenly a mob congealed and

> started smashing in the windows of the big chemist

> on the corner just 20ft away. I still can't quite

> believe TFL would drive passengers into a riot and

> make them get off into it.

[Salsaboy]

Just started raining. That should deter the little buggers.

[malumbu]

Hmm, wonder what my cycle in tomorrow will be like!

At around 7pm there was 50+ kids by the library swarming. Rye Lane was blocked off, but cycled through the first part before being sent around the houses (ie the one-way).

Almost bumped into two kids whilst cycling by the library, not at all threatening though.

Was around in 1981 when the environment was so different. Perhaps I am just getting old, as I didn't see this one coming.

[malumbu]

Very quiet in Forest Hill tonight, but the music did finish early at the Foresters and last orders early. That is Monday for you.

[benmorg]

muffins78 Wrote:

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> Would they go near residential places?

No. There's a definite pattern to the attacks, and residential areas haven't been targeted.

[Chick]

Tarot Wrote:

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> What is evident is the serious lack of police,so

> using the army would make up the shortfall.

> This is anarchy no other exscuse,fuelled by the

> internet and followed through by a load of stupid

> fools who are probably drug fuelled and pot

> cocky.

> They do wear track suits and trainers, thats why

> those sports shops and chemist are being

> targeted.

> These uneducated gang fodder will always be a

> problem.

> Find out whose involved,cut their benifits off,

> throw them out of their council houses,cancel

> their college media grants

> cancel their carnivals.

> These people who disregard the areas they live in

> should be disregarded for any benifits other

> people have to work for.

> The goverment should get their fingers out of

> there axxxs, stop dismantling the country and

> remember P.C Blakeloch .

> Rubber bullets.

The voice of reason speaks again.

[richardbach]

i genuinely dont thiunk that the peopl of ed have anythiung to wory about in terms oif personal attakcs i have been out onight and there was no issue with people walking bout and going home the kids are having a party you may note like this descpition but that it what it is no politics or theme going on here

[BrandNewGuy]

richardbach Wrote:

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> i genuinely dont thiunk that the peopl of ed have

> anythiung to wory about in terms oif personal

> attakcs i have been out onight and there was no

> issue with people walking bout and going home the

> kids are having a party you may note like this

> descpition but that it what it is no politics or

> theme going on here

Idiot

[richardbach]

yuo may be bar newguy but have nothing brand new to say so dont coment as i said i dont think yuo arre at risk of persanal attack or voilence you are not the target but eh police are