Trouble in peckham?

[GinaG3]

Sainsburys dog kennel hill rang to cancel my online shop. They've had specific order from police to close and barricade shop as best as possible. That's beans on toast for my family tonight!

[Cassius]

I can see LL from my window - it seems pretty normal for now (apart from closed shops) - traffic and people going in both directions including buses.

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[AlexC]

It's difficult to know what to believe at the moment. I'm heading home from Victoria. May all be scaremongering going on but as I can work from home I may as well. Reading twitter doesn't help. A constant stream of riot updates contradicting each other!

[newtoedf]

Peckham rye one o'clock club closed due to worries about trouble coming down from camberwell

[OliviaDee]

bellenden road all shuttered but no sign of trouble

[Bonfire2010]

Just spoken to manager at Mother Goose, Greendale - they will be sending a text shortly advising parents to collect their children sooner rather than later if they can.

I am leaving now as I am nearby, but I don't think there are any specific problems in the area at the moment and she did stress it was up to individual parents.

[Annette Curtain]

I listened to BBC radio 4 yesterday & Bernie Grants daughter was on there, a very eloquent lady with a well formed view.

She was talking about the recent killing in Tottenham & comparing it with other incidents, like the Joy Gardener case. Previously in such situations the police have met with and local community groups & their leaders, explaining the details to them. They in turn then disseminated this information to the local community, maintaining an open dialogue with the police, which is both helpful & important.

However, she said in this particular case the Police weren't forthcoming in meeting or discussing the incident with the community leaders as in the previous cases, leaving a 4-5 hour gap before making any sort of positive communication.

Is this kind of liaison ad hoc or is it formalised.

What's the official line from The Met.

NETTE

[sarahstrawberries]

andy1 Wrote:

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> sarahstrawberries Wrote:

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> > Sally81 Wrote:

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> > > KEEP things factual. Twitter is unreliable as

> > is

> > > any hearsay. For the sake of our community

> can

> > we

> > > please only post about what we have seen with

> > our

> > > own eyes....don't spread unnecessary fear.

> >

> >

> > I phone Sainsburys 5 minutes ago and they

> > confirmed that all customers had been evacuated

> > and the store was closed; just the staff to

> > leave. This was due to specific advise

> received

> > which is that there is a mob moving from

> > Camberwell through to Peckham.

>

>

> So, in order to keep things factual, you've posted

> some facts that you received from a shop worker

> who'd heard from his colleague who had heard some

> rumours from someone who heard from an

> indeterminate and unspecified individual who had

> specific intelligence that a gang was heading from

> SE5 to SE15. If I was in a mob heading from SE5

> to SE15, I'd take the flat route along Camberwell

> Church St myself, rather than trekking up Grove

> Lane and Dog Kennel Hill then down the other side

> thus threatening Sainsburys on the way. (As you

> can tell, I think you're being ridiculous in

> posting this nonsense and panicking people for no

> good reason).

I'm saying what I was told and should have been more specfic: the person I spoke to in Sainsburys said it was POLICE advise they had received, telling them to close the shop. I'm not panicking people. Whether they feel that Sainsburys, or any other shop for that matter, closing is cause to panic - that's up to them.

[titch juicy]

my friend at the victoria has said that police have told all traders on bellenden road to close for same reason, and that the bishop has called them to say that LL is currently being trashed

anyone confirm or deny?

if these reports are true then i reckon the media have been told not to report, as it exacerbates the problems

[KidKruger]

RUMOUR:

I have been called seperately with 2x 'rumours':

1. Thornton Heath Tesco's is being ransacked

2. Kids gathering in ED park ready for later

Like i SAID TOTALLY UNSUBSTANTIATED.

[ianr]

> Is this kind of liaison ad hoc or is it formalised. / What's the official line from The Met.

I don't know, but I did see a ? former police commander on ? Newsnight saying that the IPCC had a family liaison function in such cases, and criticising them for being a slow-moving organisation. Whatever, the large number of Met PR people don't seem to have been very effective. I wonder if they were consulted, and also why there was such a long interval before the public statement from Mr Duggan's family, that they did not condone the riot.

[sarahstrawberries]

If by "ED park" you mean the one next to Locale/Goose Green, then I can confirm that's completely untrue.

[KidKruger]

Dulwich Park I was told.

Not GG.

[*Bob*]

Listen to the voice of the politically disaffected - interviewed on the BBC world service

http://audioboo.fm/boos/434411-leana-hosea-speaks-to-croydon-looters-on-bbcworldservice

[aspidistra]

thecrazy48 Wrote:

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> My brother has just text me to say a group is

> already gathering on Camberwell Green. Here we go

> again...

I came through Camberwell Green around 2pm, and there was nothing happening, except Butterfly Walk had the shutters down, along with many other shops (but perhaps surprisingly, not Gregg's). Unusually large numbers of ambulances around King's though...

[BB100]

Reports on the Honor Oak forum look genuine. One shop manager says Whitgift Shopping Centre Croydon have been told to close and I know this is true as my husband has seen the shops closing up there. He says Croydon stinks of smoke.

There is also a post saying people were asked by the police to leave Crystal Palace park http://www.se23.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5056&page=1

[Annette Curtain]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Listen to the voice of the politically disaffected

> - interviewed on the BBC world service

>

> http://audioboo.fm/boos/434411-leana-hosea-speaks-

> to-croydon-looters-on-bbcworldservice

Oh Dear...

I've just listened to that *Bob* My god, how vanilla.

"Yer, good fun, got a couple of free fings "

"Showin' the rich people/police we can do wot we liiike "

NETTE

[maxxi]

titch juicy Wrote:

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> my friend at the victoria has said that police

> have told all traders on bellenden road to close

> for same reason, and that the bishop has called

> them to say that LL is currently being trashed

>

> anyone confirm or deny?

>

Walked past Bishop 5 mins ago - nothing happening at moment in LL except shops closing/boarding up and people on way home.

[Higster]

What we need is someone who lives overlooking LL to set up a web came and live video stream

[pez]

Just cycled through Camberwell and Peckham from town and didn't see much going on. Spoke to a copper who said the police keep getting called to false alarms and that nothing is going on presently.

[Sherwick]

Annette Curtain Wrote:

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> *Bob* Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Listen to the voice of the politically

> disaffected

> > - interviewed on the BBC world service

> >

> >

> http://audioboo.fm/boos/434411-leana-hosea-speaks-

>

> > to-croydon-looters-on-bbcworldservice

>

> Oh Dear...

>

>

> I've just listened to that *Bob* My god, how

> vanilla.

>

> "Yer, good fun, got a couple of free fings "

>

> "Showin' the rich people/police we can do wot we

> liiike "

>

>

> NETTE

Tells you all you need to know about the type of people doing this and why they're doing it.

[sarahstrawberries]

Goose Green/East Dulwich Road is very quiet, and people are still walking around outside. A few people taking their kids to the play park.

[craigy]

I have just driven myself and my kids from st thomas' to east Dulwich via camberwell grove, dog kennel hill and lordship lane and nothing happening.. Central London is very quiet, all police I saw were heading towards Brixton, people sunbathing by camberwell green, lordship lane has loads of traffic and all shops closed wih shutters down wherever possible...

Here's hoping it is all a massive over reaction.....

[anonymous_third_part]

have the feds told people to lockdown their shops or is it by choice?