PR station upgrade - 12th of Never?

[Nigello]

Does anyone know when the revamp of PR station/forecourt will begin? I hope it's tomorrow at the latest as it is truly a midden. Never mind about risking life and limb on icy pavements when there's already rotting meat or squashed fruit or hairball foot lassos in the Quatermass-like passageway to the rather lovely station building itself.

[JohnL]

Peckham Vision said March (but that's almost over)

https://www.facebook.com/PeckhamVision/photos/a.373677405988462.83282.373651479324388/1739832162706306/?type=3&theater

[DulwichFox]

Not holding my breath.

[KidKruger]

If they posh-up the forecourt of the station then we're all doomed.

Nowt wrong with a bit of 'character'. Real world stuff innits.

[DulwichFox]

Some rough sleepers seemed to of settled in.

Couple of Double mattresses with bedding in the arches.

If they really posh it up, it would not be in keeping with the rest of Rye Lane.

[Nigello]

If they really posh it up, it would not be in keeping with the rest of Rye Lane. - Talk about race to the bottom/lowest common denominator.

Being grubby is not "cool" (whatever that really means; I don't know so don't use the word), despite what umpteen style columnists will tell you at the drop of a snap-back cap. If you need to get your "cool-kicks" by walking past rotted apples, urine-stained walls and homeless people, then you ought to rethink your values.

I don't want "posh", just a reasonable amount of cleanliness, safety and regard for the taxpayer.

[Louisa]

I make absolutely no secret of supporting the sentiments of the OP. I remember Rye Lane when it was clean and tidy and believe me, it had plenty of character back then. People trying to justify squalid, filthy conditions because it?s ?cool? or ?fashionable? are completely missing the point here.

We don?t need gentrification in Peckham, that?s already begun without consultation anyway.

But, we do need a clean and pleasant environment for visitors and locals alike. Cleaning up the station area, and offering some new station arches available for retail or cafe useage cant be a bad thing surely?

Louisa.

[KidKruger]

Only Nigella and Louisa have mentioned 'cool' so far.

Perhaps the new cool means sweeping the disadvantaged out of sight, a bit of ethnic cleansing and sterilisation of Rye Lane just to make sure there's no more nasty little balls of hair ?

[Louisa]

And so far KK only you have managed to link clean and pleasant with ethnic cleansing and sweeping the disadvantaged out of sight. What?s so wrong about wanting a sanitary and inviting environment for everyone? So places, outside of London which are MUCH poorer than Peckham would love to have this level of attention and funding, but unfortunately are overlooked. If anything, we should be grateful that funding is going in to improve the environment for people who live and work around the station.

If you want to have a conversation about the evils of gentrification I?m very happy to partake, but cleaning up a filthy station forecourt for the benefit of everyone isn?t part of that in my eyes.

Louisa.

[JohnL]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> Only Nigella and Louisa have mentioned 'cool' so

> far.

> Perhaps the new cool means sweeping the

> disadvantaged out of sight, a bit of ethnic

> cleansing and sterilisation of Rye Lane just to

> make sure there's no more nasty little balls of

> hair ?

The hairdresser shops are being relocated IIRC (might be wrong)

[jimlad48]

To be honest I can't wait for the work to begin - PR lane is a dump full of squalid shops selling cheap nasty tat. The sooner its replaced by something that doesnt feel like a dystopian fantasy novel the better.

[JohnL]

jimlad48 Wrote:

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> To be honest I can't wait for the work to begin -

> PR lane is a dump full of squalid shops selling

> cheap nasty tat. The sooner its replaced by

> something that doesnt feel like a dystopian

> fantasy novel the better.

Peckham Rye end of Rye Lane has acquired quite a few new coffee shops and restaurants over the last few years. Apparently a bike shop will be opening underneath Co-Op house soon.

Whether you like that type of regeneration or not, it has happened. Other changes too, some for the worse, when I first moved here The Hope pub was still open (now it's a bookies), there was no John The Unicorn, but there were a Currys, Woolworths and Carpetright on Rye Lane.

[alice]

Nasty posts. if you don?t like it don?t go there.

[redjam]

I'm with Louisa/Nigello on this one. I can't see what's so objectionable about wanting a place to look a bit cleaner. I wouldn't want the whole character of the lane to change, but the station area is pretty squalid and intimidating late at night.

[flocker spotter]

jimlad48 Wrote:

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> To be honest I can't wait for the work to begin -

> PR lane is a dump full of squalid shops selling

> cheap nasty tat. The sooner its replaced by

> something that doesnt feel like a dystopian

> fantasy novel the better.

heavy handed CPZs and ethnic cleansing seems to be your thang. You really are a charmer

[jimlad48]

flocker spotter Wrote:

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> jimlad48 Wrote:

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> > To be honest I can't wait for the work to begin

> -

> > PR lane is a dump full of squalid shops selling

> > cheap nasty tat. The sooner its replaced by

> > something that doesnt feel like a dystopian

> > fantasy novel the better.

>

>

> heavy handed CPZs and ethnic cleansing seems to be

> your thang. You really are a charmer

Ethnic Cleansing? I'm sorry, I don't often feel the need to get irate, but equating urban redevelopment with the intentional identification and mass murder of one group of people by another isn't just in bad taste, it is exceptionally offensive.

Similarly, my support of the democratic process to see CPZ implemented where the democratic majority of voters choose to do so has nothing to do with this thread.

What an extremely offensive and unpleasant post which adds nothing to the debate, and seems intended to be as offensive as possible about the poster. I have reported you to site admin as a result.

[flocker spotter]

stop clutching your pearls and making a drama out of it. You made a provocative and antagonistic statement with the intention of getting a response. Do not be surprised if the response is not what you expected

[jimlad48]

flocker spotter Wrote:

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> stop clutching your pearls and making a drama out

> of it. You made a provocative and antagonistic

> statement with the intention of getting a

> response. Do not be surprised if the response is

> not what you expected

You just accused me of supporting the mass murder of innocent men, women and children because I said that I didnt like PR as it stood now, and would welcome redevelopment.

You could have said 'I'm sorry for slandering you, that was a bit of an overreaction'. Instead you've doubled down.

Again, please could you delete and withdraw your above comment - I believe it is a despicable means of attacking someone by suggesting that their support for urban redevelopment equates to their supporting the mass murder of men, women and children.

Please withdraw your statement.

[Usul]

The question isn't if, but when.

When?

[flocker spotter]

Why cant we have nice things ?

[JohnL]

Work has begun (according to Southwark Council)

https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2018/mar/work-begins-on-peckham-rye-station-square-regeneration

One of the hairdressers (on the corner) has been kicked out apparently - read somewhere she wasn't happy.