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Mariahatty, I think keeping a space outside your house for tradesmen is reasonable. I recently parked across two spaces outside my house because someone was coming to jet wash my blocked drain and obviously needed to park outside. I think that putting bins to save a space for the resident is pushing it.

Ghlpc Wrote:

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> I think anyone who feels it is their right to

> reserve a space outside their house with bins,

> should also accept it is my right to move those

> bins and park there. Simple.



So if, say, you needed a skip you would be happy for someone else to park outside your house and the skip have to go at the other end of your road or even in another road because there was nowhere else for it to go?


Or if you were more moving house, the removal van couldn't park outside?


Or is it different when it comes to your own needs?


ETA: Apologies if you are talking about someone permanently saving a space outside their house, in which case I agree with you!

Sue Wrote:

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> Ghlpc Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I think anyone who feels it is their right to

> > reserve a space outside their house with bins,

> > should also accept it is my right to move those

> > bins and park there. Simple.

>

>

> So if, say, you needed a skip you would be happy

> for someone else to park outside your house and

> the skip have to go at the other end of your road

> or even in another road because there was nowhere

> else for it to go?

>

> Or if you were more moving house, the removal van

> couldn't park outside?

>

> Or is it different when it comes to your own

> needs?

>

> ETA: Apologies if you are talking about someone

> permanently saving a space outside their house, in

> which case I agree with you!


If you're having a skip you or your contractors have to get a licence from the council for it and then, I believe, you're legally entitled to reserve the space.

Sue Wrote:

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> Ghlpc Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I think anyone who feels it is their right to

> > reserve a space outside their house with bins,

> > should also accept it is my right to move those

> > bins and park there. Simple.

>

>

> So if, say, you needed a skip you would be happy

> for someone else to park outside your house and

> the skip have to go at the other end of your road

> or even in another road because there was nowhere

> else for it to go?

>

> Or if you were more moving house, the removal van

> couldn't park outside?

>

> Or is it different when it comes to your own

> needs?

>

> ETA: Apologies if you are talking about someone

> permanently saving a space outside their house, in

> which case I agree with you!



Yes, I was referring to reserving a space purely for parking their own car.


If bins had a polite note in reference to a skip or big delivery for example, I think thats acceptable .


It does frustrate me, however I wouldn't go moving bins for the sake of proving a point, but if I've been round the block 2-3 times and still cant find a space, I will move bins if needed.

rendelharris Wrote:

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>

> If you're having a skip you or your contractors

> have to get a licence from the council for it and

> then, I believe, you're legally entitled to

> reserve the space.



Ah, OK.


So you reserve it with bins?


So then what happens if somebody removes the bins?!

Sue Wrote:

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> rendelharris Wrote:

> ----------------------------------------------

> >

> > If you're having a skip you or your contractors

> > have to get a licence from the council for it

> and

> > then, I believe, you're legally entitled to

> > reserve the space.

>

>

> Ah, OK.

>

> So you reserve it with bins?

>

> So then what happens if somebody removes the

> bins?!


Not sure about that! Thinking about it, I know you have to have a licence to have a skip, but whether that actually gives you the right to a space I'm not sure. It does if you want to put the skip on a parking bay, the council will suspend the bay for you, but without them maybe you just have to take your chances.

Louisa - don't you live in a flat? If so, how is the space outside your building 'your' space which you can keep for yourself with a bin? How would that be neighbourly behaviour? What about the other 3 or 4 families/residents living in the same building?


If you don't, then I ask my question more generally regarding flats.

Louisa wrote: "I am merely pointing out, that is is common courtesy and community spirited to keep kerbside spaces outside of properties, primarily for the use of the resident within that vicinity, as frequently as possible. And when the roads have quietened down, others should be mindful of that fact.


I have had many a argument with people over this outside my house, and would do so again. If I need to reserve a space I believe it is my right to do so. It is common sense surely?


Louisa."


Did these arguments include arguing with your neighbours/other residents of your flats/building?


Also, if you stick your bin in the road to obstruct it and stop anyone from parking there - how does that discriminate between locals looking for somewhere to park and supposed out of towners coming to 'steal' 'your' space? It doesn't discriminate does it? It's just selfish and anti-social behaviour.

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