Child Abuse???? advice please

[Otta]

If they can get away with crap customer services, they will. The can not get away with crap child protection services!

[Alan Medic]

  Quote

You haven't established any such thing unless you are referring to an imaginary problem that may or may not exist in real life.The original poster wasn't even a witness to these so called events.

[civilservant]

hmm... I'd love to be as sure as you are, Alan Medic, but happy to accept that child protection services would have to be un-crap especially when covering an area with Southwark's challenges

[????'s Mrs]

I have some very recent experience of working in Southwarks Safeguarding team and I can assure you they are very good in comparison to some other local authorities. If their is evidence to investigate, they will.

[Alan Medic]

Isn't it strange that Red1 never came back to report her findings? After 5 pages of debate I feel like the last chapter is missing in a book I was reading.

[Saffron]

Let's hope that's b/c it was all a big hoohah over nothing, and that children and parents are all fine?

[Alan Medic]

I don't know what b/c means Saffron. It didn't sound like it was 'over nothing'. We are grown ups here. Either the poster made up a pack of lies OR there is a good reason they can't post on this subject anymore. It hasn't stopped them posting on an 'unimportant' subject elsewhere. Why not say something on the subject?

[buggie]

b/c = because

Alan Medic think you're being unfairly harsh on Saffron (especially after you brought the thread back up after 3kwks) as she is simply saying what I'm sure we all hope was the case so bit surprised at you doing a good job at biting her head off in your next post.

IIRC, everything the OP said in their first post was 2nd hand from her fiance & brother-in-law - nothing was ever posted having directly witnessed the situation. As I see it there are a few possibilities:

1/ The thread was deliberately started to attempt to get family room poster's knickers in a twist (maybe even an EDF version of frape - I agree it seems weird that the OP has commented on a christmas fair thread but not here since).

2/ The reported behaviour was (when witnessed by the OP) not as serious when s/he witnessed it themselves - could be that the reports she'd heard had been exaggerated (not maliciously - if a child is crying it can sound a lot longer than it really is).

3/ Something was going on, it's now being investigated by the appropriate authorities and it has been advised that commenting on this on a platform such as this could contravene confidentiality/impede the investigation/being able to help the family.

Is this more the reply you were wanting?

[Saffron]

Could it also be that the OP simply wanted advice and didn't want to get involved in what turned into a rather elaborate though relatively unsophisticated debate on this thread?

I'm keeping positive and sticking by my original hope: all a big hoohah over nothing.

[Alan Medic]

  Quote

I've no idea where you got that from bug.You're seeing something that isn't there.

[buggie]

This is what I found harsh:

don't know what b/c means Saffron. It didn't sound like it was 'over nothing'. We are grown ups here. Either the poster made up a pack of lies OR there is a good reason they can't post on this subject anymore. It hasn't stopped them posting on an 'unimportant' subject elsewhere. Why not say something on the subject?

Felt like you brought up the thread wanting further discussion, then when Saffron replied got chippy at her response which to me seemed unreasonable - I doubt anyone is deliberately trying to keep things hidden from you & think Saffron was reflecting what most of us had thought.

I wonder if anyone has thought to PM the OP to check directly with them?

[Alan Medic]

I'm sorry bug but you are misreading the tone of my post. I didn't get chippy, whatever that is. I meant no illwill towards Saffron. Are the guard to the family room at the moment?

[Saffron]

No ill will taken here, Alan Medic. But perhaps you could have elaborated on what you were suggesting in reference to my first post, when you replied, "It didn't sound like it was 'over nothing'. We are grown ups here." ?? Your statement is fairly vague. My reading of it was that you thought my understanding of the OP was naive and my reply childish. It was of course neither, and so I don't take any offence.

But it's exactly these kinds of vague comments that would have put me off replying if I were the OP. The Subject line, is "Child Abuse... advice please". The OP did get some good advice before the thread descended into a grey zone of endless speculation, moot debate, and virtual rubbernecking. All very entertaining, but it's not *advice* is it?

So, my advice to the OP is not to post anymore on this thread! Red1, I'm sure you've made the best decesion you could given the evidence and resources you've had.

;)