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KidKruger Wrote:

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> Agree with MP, he came across as very genuine and

> decent moral base.


Aside of when he was having an affair with Edwina Currie eh? Though at least he didn't try to sell a book off the back of it... I really thought that was so uncalled for - Norma did not deserve to have that dragged out into the open.


Major may have been a fairly decent guy, but he did mess up quite comprehensively taking us into the ERM.


As for Thatcher. I can't say I will cry when she passes away (not that I tend to cry about the deaths of people I dont' know personally) but I don't think she deserves to be vilified in the way she has been by some people. Could do with someone with her attitude to sort out Bob Crow....

indiepanda Wrote:

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> KidKruger Wrote:

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> As for Thatcher. Could do with someone

> with her attitude to sort out Bob Crow...

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+1 Best thing said on this thread so far..

I think this will be the jewel in the crown, for Cameron the Tory leader to hold a state funeral for Thatcher. I just curious no doubt all the conservative party will be there as she was there Boadicea reincarnated but will the Lib/Dems attend as they are part of the collision or will this be too much for there supporters.

Marmora Man Wrote:

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> I don't understand this vilification of Lady

> Thatcher. She resigned almost 21 years ago - which

> means that, unless you were an unusually political

> aware teenager, you have to 45+ to have any real

> memory of her time as Prime Minister.


44 in my case. And yes, I remember it vividly. I was in Yorkshire during the Miners' Strike, and I saw what she did to people and communities. She's old and ailing now, and that's sad when it happens to anyone, but it won't change my opinion of her, and what she did when she had the chance.


I think it would be hard to argue with the sentiment that some things she did needed doing. But many of them would have been done much better by someone who actually had a heart.

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Comeuppance, is that what death is to you for

> Thatcher? Can you distinguish life from death?

> What gives you the right to comment on someone

> else's life when it's coming to an end? What do

> you know of life or death for that matter? Do you

> know the woman? Are you a judge?

>

> I hope your demise is treated somewhat more kindly

> by those who say they love you. For one who has so

> much hate inside I suspect that love is not as

> real for you as you may wish when it comes to what

> people think of you.


Excellent post Mr. Medic. I agree with you 100%.


As a staunch Labour supporter most of my voting life, I too didn't agree with and detested Lady T's politics and policies. However, this thread concerns her (serious) illness and the fact that she (a human being) probably hasn't got long to live.


By all means, if you want to comment on her time in office, do so. Be as vociferous as you like. But, I think decorum dictates that you should do that on a separate thread.

I really don't understand why people are given more respect when they are closer to death. Obviously no-one normal would wish harm on someone else, but the fact that she is old and ill does not necesarily negate the things she did when she was in power and wielded it without remorse.


Some people on here say that it's somehow un-human to not care now that she is old and sick, but would they express the same sympathy for other despised people such as Mugabe, Hitler (if he was still alive), a prolific peodophile, etc?


I find it strange that people who say that others are not allowed to continue to hate Mrs Thatcher now because of her age and infirmity did not express similar sentiments when Osama Bin Laden was killed the other day and others were g;leeful about his death. I am not an advocate for OBL, but why the difference if it's just because Mrs Thatcher is a human being? OBL was also a human being.

mockney piers Wrote:

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> I got made redundant due to the cuts recently. I

> don't hate Cameron, I just dusted myself off and

> got on with it.

> You revel in someone's death when they tortured or

> dissappeared your loved ones, not because they did

> you out of a job.

> Some of the hyperbole on here is little short of

> pathetic.



Very well said.

LadyDeliah, I think I pretty much covered those points a page and a half ago.


But I see you acknowledge that your examples were stretching the analogy too far.


Of course enjoying someone's death and not giving a toss about someone's passing are two different things. I for one won't bat an eyelid when she goes, but I see no reason to revel or gloat.

Random Crass Quotes:


"The iron lady's proved her metal, has struck with her fist of steel. Has proved that a heart that is made of lead is a heart that doesn't feel"


"With unemployment at an all time high and this country falling apart, I, Winston Thatcher, regin supreme in this great nations heart"


Oh, and of course......


"How does it feel to be the Mother of a thousand dead?"


Ahhhhhhhh the 80s.

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