Selclene Southeast Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I have over the years, recieved hundreds, if not thousands of leaflets through my letter box advertising everything from fast food to fast selling, all which find thier way into the rubbish bin without reading.On occasion, I do find leaflets strewn accross the street and they are an eyesore and a nuisance to say the least, and what bothers me is that we, 'the tax payers' fork out thousands in tax for keeping our streets clean. I propose a 'Leaflet Fine' on leafletters - Period.If you find a leaflet on the street, cluttering the communal area of a flat, or even unceremoniously dumped behind the bins (they usually are) the company whose leaflet it is, should be fined per leaflet.I'm sure this would make a great proposal-any body else think this is a good idea. www.selclenesoutheast.co.uk/ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Crap idea.Why should a company pay for the laziness of individuals?By all means let the company know so they can take appropriate action, but don't blame them.They've paid someone to do a job who hasn't done it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1173571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selclene Southeast Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 'It's not the companies fault' Well, I suppose that is like saying that if you buy a car and it pollutes the enviroment because it was fitted with a bad catalytic converter it's your fault, where in fact it's the companies fault.Companies need to take better responsibility with who they hire to deliver leaflets. It's much easier to ensure that the company pays for the clean up, at least they would be more responsible. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1173576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hmmm... not a fair comparison because leaflets don't have aphysical functionality in the same way a car does.I'm actually more interested in a ban on leafleting through my door at all, I don't want the trash, don't want folded-up brochures stuck in my letter box allowing the little heat I have in the hall to escape, don't want the things they're offering. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1173602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Sue Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Why should a company pay for the laziness of individuals?> They've paid someone to do a job who hasn't done it.I have some sympathy for fast food places who get blamed for litter in their area caused by customers, but if it has been caused by someone they have paid to do a job, then they are indeed responsible.But, you would have to prove it was indeed an employee/contractor. If it was the householder that dropped it then it would not be their fault. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1173630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selclene Southeast Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 >Why sgould a company pay for the laziness of individuals?Weell, my whole point is that the companies should be more responsible on who delivers, how and where they deliver. If they were fined then they would make damn sure those leaflets would only, end up in letter boxes and not in the streets. I think it's a brilliant idea to fine offenders who don't care a tot about our streets and our enviroment. They should atleast pay some way to have it cleaned when it's thier rubbish advertising thier business in the streets! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1173649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigello Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Send the leaflets back to me the address of the business: with no postage; individually. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1173688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nxjen Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 So valuable council / police resources are to be used to ascertain who - householder or advertiser's employee - dropped the leaflet on the street,not to mention dealing with appeals. Not sure Selclene you've thought this through Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1173714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Nigello Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Send the leaflets back to me the address of the> business: with no postage; individually.Yes- it's the only way. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1173861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 uncleglen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Nigello Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Send the leaflets back to me the address of the> > business: with no postage; individually.> > Yes- it's the only way.How do you do that ?Put leaflets in individual envelopes ?Would cost a small fortune and a lot of effort.Apart from Leaflets from local businesses also...Surge in junk mail delivered by postmen since Royal Mail sell-off: 50,000 more flyers put through letterboxes EVERY DAYAlmost 3.2billion items of 'unaddressed' junk mail were delivered last yearFigures do not even include addressed leaflets that were also postedRead more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2996331/Surge-junk-mail-delivered-postmen-Royal-Mail-sell-50-000-flyers-letterboxes-DAY.html#ixzz4sBALA9CM DulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1173906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nxjen Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Royal Mail was delivering unaddressed leaflets long before privatisation. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1173910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 nxjen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Royal Mail was delivering unaddressed leaflets> long before privatisatio# My post was about a SURGE in Junk mail deliveries.. 50,000 more flyers DulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1173918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Do Selclene still pamphlet ED homes regularly? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1173942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbboy Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 yeah those pesky unwanted pizza leaflets that keep on coming through the letter box, no I don't eat takeaway pizza ever, latest assault are tree surgeons pushing their leaflets through. I dread to think how much paper, ink and power is wasted producing this junk that literally go's in the bin as soon as it lands on the mat. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1174033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 For several years I had a no junk mail sticker, which the PO used to provide, but it seems they realised that didn't fit with them being the main perpetrators and they stopped doing the stickers - in fact the postman kindly ripped mine off the door. As I do all the important stuff online or by email these days, that means most of what comes through the door is junk and the majority of that is enabled by the post office. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1174263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
se22 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Spare a thought for the postman who has to sort the leaflets in with your mail and then deliver it, knowing full well that much of it ends up in the bin without even being read. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1174287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Perhaps the ultimate futility of shoving crap through doors is mitigated by a final salary pension scheme and having your afternoons free. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1174291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbboy Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 No, NO sympathy for the postman, I don't appreciate junk mail, does the PO not understand they are proliferating a mountain of waste paper that people do not read and it goes straight in the bin, that then gets collected by the recycling dustmen. Such a waste of everyone's time. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1174361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I keep all the 'Indian' restaurant Menus because on rare occasions I order a delivery. They are put through the door every so often. (Menu or Price change.) 2 - 3 Pizza Menus come through the door almost every other day. They go straight in the bin.. People can always pick up a Menu from their favourite outlet if they have regular deliveries. Foxy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1174397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianr Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 > No, NO sympathy for the postman, I don't appreciate junk mail,> does the PO not understand they are proliferating a mountain of waste paper It's not the PO, it's Royal Mail. Has anyone told HMQ what's being done in her name?Though apparently you are able to opt out: https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/293/~/how-do-i-opt-out-of-receiving-any-leaflets-or-unaddressed-promotional-material/, on an all-or-none basis. Would there be anything important or interesting that you'd no longer get? Which stuff would you still get anyway, from private distributors? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1174487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selclene Southeast Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 I hope there was another way to stop companies littering our streets and wasting paper. We are talking about millions of tonnes of rubbish which cost millions to clean up overall and hardly any of the paper used is recycled or from sustainable practices. I still think a 'leaflet tax' is the way forward- And for all your information we stopped leafletting years ago, untill last month when we thought that we would just give it a try for old clients and we posted 100 leaflets into previous clients homes offeing them deals. Companies should pay for thier leaflets if they are found lying on the streets. It's almost as if they can get away with a minor form of fly tipping. Just because it does not create an eyesore, pile of rubbish does not make it acceptable. It does not matter who dropped the leaflet, or who didn't post it- All that matters is that the company who bears the logo pays the fine-thank you. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1174550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 ianr Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Though apparently you are able to opt out:> https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app/answers/de> tail/a_id/293/~/how-do-i-opt-out-of-receiving-any-> leaflets-or-unaddressed-promotional-material/, on> an all-or-none basis. Would there be anything> important or interesting that you'd no longer get?> Which stuff would you still get anyway, from> private distributors?They advised me on a couple of occasions that it would mean risking not receiving mailings from the council about benefits and the electoral role, which might leave you liable to a fine or losing your vote. Blackmail, really. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1174566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbin Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Selclene Southeast Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I have over the years, recieved hundreds, if not> thousands of leaflets through my letter box> advertising everything from fast food to fast> selling, all which find thier way into the rubbish> bin without reading.> > On occasion, I do find leaflets strewn accross the> street and they are an eyesore and a nuisance to> say the least, and what bothers me is that we,> 'the tax payers' fork out thousands in tax for> keeping our streets clean. > > I propose a 'Leaflet Fine' on leafletters -> Period.> > If you find a leaflet on the street, cluttering> the communal area of a flat, or even> unceremoniously dumped behind the bins (they> usually are) the company whose leaflet it is,> should be fined per leaflet.> > I'm sure this would make a great proposal-any body> else think this is a good idea. > > > www.selclenesoutheast.co.uk/Maybe make the first move and stop leafleting yourself?Posted by Selclene Southeast July 10, 11:53AMI am currently looking for a reliable leaflet deliver person to deliver leaflets around the East Dulwich, West Dulwich and Camberwell areas- Good rates of pay- Please call me on 020 8698 6953 or email me at [email protected] for a chat. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1175039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selclene Southeast Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 If you would pay it little more attention to previous posts instead of trolling you would have read that I personally delivered leaflets into households 500 to be exact. And it was then I realised how much rubbish was being thrown into bins and into the streets.Get a life. I still propose a leaflet fine. Regards, Danny. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1178914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Possibly from Viz's Top Tips...Business owners - raise the profile of your business in the local community by creating an account on your local forum with the name of your business and then use it to berate and abuse your potential customers. - Gerald Ratner Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/166325-fines-for-company-leafletting/#findComment-1179134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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