LookingAtcher Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 For its 2017 tour, ?Britain?s Favourite? Zippos Circus presents a brand new production Jigit! ? welcoming the thundering hooves of acrobatic Cossack riding into a UK circus ring for the first time in 30 years with the appearance of the Khadikov Jigit Riders from Kazakhstan. Plus the nail-biting motorcycle Globe of Death, and much more! At Peckham Rye 5th to 12th September. Times and tickets www.zippos.co.uk / 0871 210 2100 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Went there when kids were young. Great. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1162189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcam Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 It's about time they stopped using animals. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1162371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Mog Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 edcam Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> It's about time they stopped using animals.Totally agree. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1162399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 edcam Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> It's about time they stopped using animals.Also agree.. Foxy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1162413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules-and-Boo Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 yes, but it's 'only' horses and they get walked and fed. It's not wild animals so it doesn't count.right?Personally, I don't think any animals should be made to perform. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1162435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Jules-and-Boo Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> yes, but it's 'only' horses and they get walked> and fed. It's not wild animals so it doesn't> count.> > right?> > Personally, I don't think any animals should be> made to perform.You could say the same about show jumping or horse racing.or are they different ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1162436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules-and-Boo Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 yes, they're different. Although both have audiences so I can see your point..Horses actually like jumping over things. but it's very different to circus. Show jumping is a hobby for people that love horses. Circus is an entertainment to make money.To put it as basically as I can. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1162443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 One of My pics of Zippo Horses Circa. 2014 ?? Looks in good condition and looked after ?? (but then I'm not a vet.)Should not be used in a Circus.Foxy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1162444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Jules-and-Boo Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Show jumping is a hobby for people that love horses.Beg to differ, from what I've seen of a show jumping event, they are dripping in money and high-end sponsors etc... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1162450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewGuy Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I sympathise over the animal rights issues, but putting an end to Norman and his budgies? Noooo... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1162463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonirum Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Jules-and-Boo Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> yes, they're different. Although both have> audiences so I can see your point..> > Horses actually like jumping over things. but it's> very different to circus. Show jumping is a hobby> for people that love horses. Circus is an> entertainment to make money.> > To put it as basically as I can.Are you sure horses like jumping over things? Very rarely "jump" unless made/forced to by a rider, so show jumping is not necessarily a hobby for people who love horses. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1162812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabag Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 The animals are part of Zippos. They're not using protected species.I'm happy to see stunt riders on horses (have they got these) if they treat them well.While we're on the animal subject, I'm slightly bemused st this vogue for dressing up dogs in silly garments. I saw a shop dedicated to this stuff onece.Bonkers! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1162821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 adonirum Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Are you sure horses like jumping over things? Very> rarely "jump" unless made/forced to by a rider...When a horse unseats a rider in a horse race, they will very often carry on jumping fences on their own accord... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1162827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabag Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> adonirum Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > > Are you sure horses like jumping over things?> Very> > rarely "jump" unless made/forced to by a> rider...> > When a horse unseats a rider in a horse race, they> will very often carry on jumping fences on their> own accord...Once they've got a taste for it some horses love to jump. We had horses for years when I lived in Sussex, one of them used to do a brilliant 'clear round' all on his own, then run up to the fence all proud & full of himself. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1162851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcruickshank Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Are there any discount codes for tickets? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1171929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Anyone who thinks race horses continue to run and jump over fences do so because they like it is an idiot. They continue to run out of fear. Horses stampede and run when they are scared. In a horse race, horses are running together as in a stampede. They have no concept of having won a race. They don't give a S**t. I hate horse racing and dislike even more using animals in Circuses. DulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1171944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I wish I could think like a horse as you can Fox even though I tend to agree with you. I still really don't know what a horse thinks. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1171979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Alan Medic Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I wish I could think like a horse as you can Fox> even though I tend to agree with you. I still> really don't know what a horse thinks.Nowhere did I suggest Horses think. Foxy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1171996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Took the kids there years ago and it was great. So much better than when I was a kid seeing Chipperfields and Gerry Cottles. The former had a bad reputation for treating their animals if I remember correctly and a prosecution.Understand what is being said about animals - I expect that we are nearing the argument for not keeping pets, which I understand but not yet in a world where this will be prohibited. I am sure we can get into an arugment about farm animals too. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1172025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I grew up with horses. my parents still have them on their farm. I have no issue with horses being used by Zippos, they are well looked after and always look very healthy to me. Horses are exercised in circles every day by most owners. Cantering around a circus ring is no stress to a horse. DulwichFox is right about horse racing though. That is why race horses continue to race and jump after unseating a rider. It is a sport that has elements of cruelty both in training and what happens at the end of a horses useful racing life. Show jumping is not a hobby either. It is also a business, with the best jumpers being worth a lot as stud. Most people who keep horses do something to earn an income from those horses, even if it is just from a riding school. Without these things, there would be far fewer horses out there. They are very expensive to keep. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1172028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 DulwichFox Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Nowhere did I suggest Horses think. Are you suggesting they don't? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1172030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 DulwichFox Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Alan Medic Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > I wish I could think like a horse as you can> Fox> > even though I tend to agree with you. I still> > really don't know what a horse thinks.So what's happening when horses don't give a shit? Constipation? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1172033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
siousxiesue Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Alan Medic Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I wish I could think like a horse as you can Fox> even though I tend to agree with you. I still> really don't know what a horse thinks.I felt the same until I read 'Horse Heaven' by Jane Smiley. Wonderful book Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/161989-zippos-circus-2017/#findComment-1172103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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