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For its 2017 tour, ?Britain?s Favourite? Zippos Circus presents a brand new production Jigit! ? welcoming the thundering hooves of acrobatic Cossack riding into a UK circus ring for the first time in 30 years with the appearance of the Khadikov Jigit Riders from Kazakhstan. Plus the nail-biting motorcycle Globe of Death, and much more! At Peckham Rye 5th to 12th September. Times and tickets www.zippos.co.uk / 0871 210 2100
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Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> yes, but it's 'only' horses and they get walked

> and fed. It's not wild animals so it doesn't

> count.

>

> right?

>

> Personally, I don't think any animals should be

> made to perform.


You could say the same about show jumping or horse racing.


or are they different ?

yes, they're different. Although both have audiences so I can see your point..


Horses actually like jumping over things. but it's very different to circus. Show jumping is a hobby for people that love horses. Circus is an entertainment to make money.


To put it as basically as I can.

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> yes, they're different. Although both have

> audiences so I can see your point..

>

> Horses actually like jumping over things. but it's

> very different to circus. Show jumping is a hobby

> for people that love horses. Circus is an

> entertainment to make money.

>

> To put it as basically as I can.


Are you sure horses like jumping over things? Very rarely "jump" unless made/forced to by a rider, so show jumping is not necessarily a hobby for people who love horses.

The animals are part of Zippos. They're not using protected species.


I'm happy to see stunt riders on horses (have they got these) if they treat them well.


While we're on the animal subject, I'm slightly bemused st this vogue for dressing up dogs in silly garments. I saw a shop dedicated to this stuff onece.


Bonkers!

adonirum Wrote:

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> Are you sure horses like jumping over things? Very

> rarely "jump" unless made/forced to by a rider...


When a horse unseats a rider in a horse race, they will very often carry on jumping fences on their own accord...

red devil Wrote:

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> adonirum Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

>

> > Are you sure horses like jumping over things?

> Very

> > rarely "jump" unless made/forced to by a

> rider...

>

> When a horse unseats a rider in a horse race, they

> will very often carry on jumping fences on their

> own accord...


Once they've got a taste for it some horses love to jump. We had horses for years when I lived in Sussex, one of them used to do a brilliant 'clear round' all on his own, then run up to the fence all proud & full of himself.

  • 1 month later...

Anyone who thinks race horses continue to run and jump over fences do so because they like it is an idiot.

They continue to run out of fear.


Horses stampede and run when they are scared. In a horse race, horses are running together as in a stampede.

They have no concept of having won a race. They don't give a S**t.


I hate horse racing and dislike even more using animals in Circuses.


DulwichFox

Took the kids there years ago and it was great. So much better than when I was a kid seeing Chipperfields and Gerry Cottles. The former had a bad reputation for treating their animals if I remember correctly and a prosecution.


Understand what is being said about animals - I expect that we are nearing the argument for not keeping pets, which I understand but not yet in a world where this will be prohibited. I am sure we can get into an arugment about farm animals too.

I grew up with horses. my parents still have them on their farm. I have no issue with horses being used by Zippos, they are well looked after and always look very healthy to me. Horses are exercised in circles every day by most owners. Cantering around a circus ring is no stress to a horse.


DulwichFox is right about horse racing though. That is why race horses continue to race and jump after unseating a rider. It is a sport that has elements of cruelty both in training and what happens at the end of a horses useful racing life. Show jumping is not a hobby either. It is also a business, with the best jumpers being worth a lot as stud.


Most people who keep horses do something to earn an income from those horses, even if it is just from a riding school. Without these things, there would be far fewer horses out there. They are very expensive to keep.

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Alan Medic Wrote:

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> > I wish I could think like a horse as you can

> Fox

> > even though I tend to agree with you. I still

> > really don't know what a horse thinks.


So what's happening when horses don't give a shit? Constipation?

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> I wish I could think like a horse as you can Fox

> even though I tend to agree with you. I still

> really don't know what a horse thinks.


I felt the same until I read 'Horse Heaven' by Jane Smiley. Wonderful book

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