parent and child spaces in sainsbury's car park

[dully]

Do people realise they are for people with YOUNG children. Whose children are with them.

I have a 2 yr old son and trying to walk him safely from the car to the entrance is quite dangerous with all those blind spots. It is quite rude the number of people with no children or teenagers who take up the parent and child spaces whilst people with babies and toddlers are struggling to keep their children safe.

I am dismayed at when this is pointed out to people they become quite abusive. To the two separate women who were challenged about it this evening - please don't swear at me in front of my child and also I took photographs of your car next to the parent and child space, your registration and time and date of incidence. The car park operator assures me you will get a ?50 penalty in the post.

Please don't be selfish, park where you are supposed to.

[Peckhampam]

Well done. Isn't funny how abusive people get when they are in the wrong.

[EDOliver]

Peckhampam Wrote:

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> Well done. Isn't funny how abusive people get

> when they are in the wrong.

I witnessed this the other week. A seemingly pleasant and polite woman was trying to point out to another woman who these spaces were for and she got nothing but abuse back. Was quite shocking to witness and I waited in my car observing the situation incase things got out of hand.

Unfortunately when it comes to driving and parking alot of people dont give a damm about rules and regulations and have a " I'll do whatever I want" attitude. Complete arrogance and very very annoying.

[duchessofdulwich]

i reported somone parking in a mother and child spot at DKH sainsburys as i had my daughter with me i didnt want to get involved in a verbal confrontation. the car park staff at sainburys didnt seem to care

[buggie]

I saw a man park in one of these spaces the other day (leaving me and my 5mth old struggling out of a regular space).

He'd clearly left the car on his own, but there was a car seat in the car. Muttering the numberplate to myself all the way into the store I went straight to the customer services desk and told them (saying either the baby was unaccompanied in the car or he'd thought that with a car seat in there he could get away with it). They immediately put out a customer announcement for the owner of the car - couldn't stick round to see if he did go/what they said (shopping is seriously time limited these days!), but was impressed that they took it seriously.

[h3+]

Well done

[ClareC]

Drives me round the bend, even more so now I'm in my 8 month of pregnancy which doesn't exactly help matters attempting to get a 13 mth old in and out her car seat and the car with barely any space because 3 teenagers fancy parking their tiny hatchback in the last parent space ..... As is what happened last time I went! Grrr I got fed up with never getting a space and the management not bothering to do something about the situation, bought an Ocado delivery pass and shopping now delivered no hassle every week :-) Sainsbury's loss!

[Jeremy]

I agree that it's selfish when people park in these spaces out of laziness. However, I rarely see parents with young kids in there in the evenings, so perhaps they should only operate the policy during the daytime.

[matlow]

This has always driven me mad. It's bad enough when people spot a space and slide in oportunistically but I have seen people stop and queue for a space keeping me waiting behind with 2 screaming kids grrrrrr!

[jumpinjackflash]

dully Wrote:

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> Do people realise they are for people with YOUNG

> children. Whose children are with them.

>

> I have a 2 yr old son and trying to walk him

> safely from the car to the entrance is quite

> dangerous with all those blind spots. It is quite

> rude the number of people with no children or

> teenagers who take up the parent and child spaces

> whilst people with babies and toddlers are

> struggling to keep their children safe.

>

> I am dismayed at when this is pointed out to

> people they become quite abusive. To the two

> separate women who were challenged about it this

> evening - please don't swear at me in front of my

> child and also I took photographs of your car next

> to the parent and child space, your registration

> and time and date of incidence. The car park

> operator assures me you will get a ?50 penalty in

> the post.

>

>

The car park operator will probably not do anything about this so you know...how is he going to prove that the women didn't have a child with them? As DuchessofDulwich points out, the car park staff don't really care.

[Quaverflava]

WoW this is appalling! How on earth, did people with children do their shopping before these bays were introduced? I really am surprised that so many of us have made it here today after growing up without these bays, perhaps we could contact police to make them aware of the atrocities going on in the Sainsbury?s car park? To those affected by this scourge upon our society don?t give up fighting, hopefully with enough whining you?ll be able to create a better world free from this sort of tyranny for your children, your children?s children and so on. Maybe a publically funded victim support group should be made available to the victims that would help you them deal with the trauma of having to park a bit further away from the entrance. My thoughts are with you all X x

[HonaloochieB]

I reckon there's a place for Quaverflava on 10 o' Clock Live.

[derbyean]

It is Quaverflava's only post................

[ClareC]

And it is hilarious! Either totally clueless or simply baiting ;-)

[dazeykat]

Please bear in mind that parents/carers of older children with disabilities (not always obvious!) may need to use those spaces too.

[duchessofdulwich]

good point dazeykat "Quaverflava" obviously dosent have children

[Gimme]

If everyone ignored rules we'd have chaos.

Sainsburys created these spaces for a reason. They should either take action against abuse of the rules they set on their property or not bother in the first place. I'm sure they want mums with kids in to pay a fortune for the weeks groceries. If they drive away customers by not enforcing their own rules they will lose out.

Quaverflava - go be sarcastic somewhere else. You aren't funny, haven't contributed anything to the discussion and come across as slightly childish / insecure / unhappy.

[spanglysteve]

While I dont agree with Quaverflava's tone, I actually did find his post quite funny. We are in an increasingly nannyish state. Yes it is annoying when people misuse such spaces (and for the record I never would; at least not during the day, I did sometimes when it was open 24hrs and I went at 2am in the morning!) but you cant always enforce all rules all the time.

I think its good that Sainsbury's provide such spaces, they dont have to, but its a helpful gesture to their customers. They should not then be held responsible for not enforcing correct use of the spaces. We are all adults here and I think its a tad overdramtic to suggest that the breaking of this rule will lead to "Chaos". It comes down to personal responsibility. People will always break the rules, but that doesnt mean that we should expect Sainsbury's to act like some sort of gestapo-like parking officers.

[mikese22]

I agree with Spanglysteve - I also thought Quaverflava's post was funny - people need to lighten up, plenty of people with kids manage to shop using buses and cope ok - as we all probably did in the 1950s

Talking of buses - it always amazes m when mums with buggies (in rush hour) get upset that they can't take over the whole lower level with child filled buggies - I'm sure not that many years ago there used to be signs on buses stating that pushchairs could only be brought on board if folded - whatever happened to them?

[Loz]

I've said it before...

The problem with P&C parking spots is that they are in the prime parking area closest to the store. Not only does this cause people not entitled to use them to grab them, but it is also the busiest, most dangerous part of the car park. Stick them at the back of the car park with a protected walkway back to the store and, voila, problem solved.

[????]

Quaverflava Wrote:

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> WoW this is appalling! How on earth, did people

> with children do their shopping before these bays

> were introduced? I really am surprised that so

> many of us have made it here today after growing

> up without these bays, perhaps we could contact

> police to make them aware of the atrocities going

> on in the Sainsbury?s car park? To those affected

> by this scourge upon our society don?t give up

> fighting, hopefully with enough whining you?ll be

> able to create a better world free from this sort

> of tyranny for your children, your children?s

> children and so on. Maybe a publically funded

> victim support group should be made available to

> the victims that would help you them deal with the

> trauma of having to park a bit further away from

> the entrance. My thoughts are with you all X x

( ) Troll

( ) Idiot

( ) Not funny

Can't make up my mind which box to tick.....

[Pugwash]

I would have a little more sympathy with the some of the comments, but feel that the misuse of the disabled parking spaces causes greater problems. Until her recent death, my mother was wheelchair bound and we used to take her shopping each week. The misuse of blue badges is widespread in car parks - not able to find a disabled bay causes mobility impaired shoppers much more inconvienance. Have you tried to get someone with restricted mobility in both arms and legs out of a car door which cannot be opened fully and hold a wheelchair in place for them to sit in without having to step backwards/forewards. The only way it can be done is park halfway up the space, grab wheelchair from car, open out, get Mum out- making sure that open chair is no more than a foot away from car seat to allow weight bearing only, pull chair back with Mum, find suitable place to park mum and chair, jumo back in car to park correctly. Hope that Mum and chair have not been run over by other cars and dash to store to find they have have no disabled shopping trolleys. Add this to snow and ice, where you need several hands and arms to lift Mum out of car into chair as store has not thought to clear away ice (especially in disabled bays) and you have difficulty standing up etc.

[????]

Absolutely agree Pugwash, every Saturday at Peckham Pulse I see obviously not-disabled people come out of the gym and get in cars with Disabled badges that are either fake or 'borrowed' off realatives presumably. Still there are a ridiculously large number of presumably PC led disabled spaces in that car Park

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Quids, love you dearly but that's a stupid post. You cannot tell by looking at someone if they have a disability or not. And they could have been to the gym for legitimate physio reasons.

[????]

..I remain deeply suspicious