BBC Pay

[Loz]

The Beeb has released what the big money earners are getting paid.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40653861

The debate has been around the male/female split, but I think that misses the real point: why are the Beeb dishing out such big salaries? I can sort of understand some of the 'names', but there are some real surprises in the list. Like the bloke from Casualty on nearly ?400k. Half a million for fronting the One Show. EastEnders actors on hundreds of thousands. Newsreaders. Sporting presenters.

People get paid less than that to run large businesses. The PM gets paid less than that to run the whole damn country.

Now I don't begrudge them a good salary, but I'm thinking ?80k, maybe ?100k. Seems to be a lot of silly money being paid. And most of them we'd hardly miss if they were replaced tomorrow. And there is a very long line of talented people that could.

[red devil]

Loz, I think you need to be introduced to the world of football...:)

[Michael Palaeologus]

These are people that draw in millions of viewers and they are in demand. If the Beeb didnt pay them well, they would go to the private sector. Pay less well and all of the BBC output will be presented by Timmy Mallet.

[Seabag]

Really, you'd get someone doing a tedious gig like Casulaty for ?80 k

FFs give the man and his ilk a bonus I'd say. They sedate the nation at approx 7:00pm many nights of the week. Him and others keep my neighbour's indoors and quiet most evenings, filling their heads with guff to chat about later.

"Did you see Casualty , oh blimey ..blah blah blah" at which point I can glaze over and nod accordingly.

I'm happy my money goes to such things.

[Loz]

Michael Palaeologus Wrote:

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> These are people that draw in millions of viewers

> and they are in demand. If the Beeb didnt pay them

> well, they would go to the private sector. Pay

> less well and all of the BBC output will be

> presented by Timmy Mallet.

Timmy Mallet? I suspect he'd want at least a quarter-million.

Anyway, would we really miss all these people? Can you honestly say you actually recognise each and every one of them?

Adam Woodyatt

Amanda Mealing

Ben Brown

Catherine Shipton

Dan Walker

Danny Dyer

Derek Thompson

Diane Parish

Eddie Mair

Gavin Esler

Gillian Taylforth

Guy Henry

Hugh Quarshie

Jason Mohammad

Jemma Redgrave

John Inverdale

Jonathan Sopel

Justin Webb

Kamal Ahmed

Lacey Turner

Laurie Brett

Letitia Dean

Linda Henry

Mark Chapman

Mark Easton

Martha Kearney

Matt Baker

Mishal Husain

Naga Munchetty

Paul Martin

Peter Capaldi

Rosie Marcel

Scott Maslen

Sophie Raworth

Tameka Empson

Tim Roth

[red devil]

I'm impressed, I got 29/36 :)

I'm surprised at your reaction Loz, thought you were quite rational, logical etc. If this had this effect on you, right now Twitter must be having a meltdown of clusterfuck proportions...

[Mick Mac]

Over ?2m of licence payers money (which lets face it is a tax) to Chris Evans for a radio programme. No thanks.

[dbboy]

This is public money being used to pay astronomical salaries, some do very nicely and have no idea of reality based on what they earn and must be spending. If these so called "stars" were not as greedy, perhaps the money the beeb gets from license payers would go a whole lot further and services like BBBC 3 would not have been closed.

For Evans it takes over 157,000 licence payers just to pay his wages. Is he really worth that, to be honest NO and neither are most on the list of names in an earlier post. And that is he before those that also have their own production companies.

I suspect what they actually pocket themselves is way above the figures quoted by the beeb. Bet lots of those on top pay will be keeping a very low profile.

[Earl Aelfheah]

I'm with Loz on this. There are a few 'names' who if they left, probably could take their audience with them (those who a show's been built around)m, but for the majority of actors, they're infinitely replaceable by a whole host of potential, talented, out of work actors.

[Mick Mac]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> I'm with Loz on this. There are a few 'names' who

> if they left, probably could take their audience

> with them

Who cares - its a service.

[red devil]

dbboy Wrote:

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> I suspect what they actually pocket themselves is

> way above the figures quoted by the beeb. Bet lots

> of those on top pay will be keeping a very low

> profile.

Are you suggesting they are paid more by the BBC than quoted, or earn more from other sources?...

[JohnL]

red devil Wrote:

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> dbboy Wrote:

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> > I suspect what they actually pocket themselves

> is

> > way above the figures quoted by the beeb. Bet

> lots

> > of those on top pay will be keeping a very low

> > profile.

>

> Are you suggesting they are paid more by the BBC

> than quoted, or earn more from other sources?...

I do like crisps as a treat :)

Some things on the BBC are pretty good for the regions even outside news (Dr Who and BBC Wales)

[JohnL]

On equal pay - your pay is dependent on what the demand is at the time of negotiations in the private sector - and I assume it's similar at the BBC - so whats happening with women at the BBC - when they negotiate are they being let down by someone (whoever advises them).

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bbc-faces-threat-of-legal-action-from-female-stars-in-gender-pay-gap-storm-a3591506.html

[Cardelia]

red devil Wrote:

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> dbboy Wrote:

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> > I suspect what they actually pocket themselves

> is

> > way above the figures quoted by the beeb. Bet

> lots

> > of those on top pay will be keeping a very low

> > profile.

>

> Are you suggesting they are paid more by the BBC

> than quoted, or earn more from other sources?...

A bit of both. For example, Graham Norton's BBC salary doesn't include the money he's paid to host The Graham Norton Show because that's produced by an external company. The likes of Matt LeBlanc and David Attenborough are not on the list at all because they're not directly paid by the BBC, even though Top Gear and the Attenborough documentaries are produced by BBC Worldwide.

[Loz]

red devil Wrote:

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> I'm surprised at your reaction Loz, thought you

> were quite rational, logical etc.

I hardly consider my thoughts on this as being either irrational or illogical.

And, happily, it seems I'm not alone.

[edhistory]

I thought Alan Yentob had left the BBC.

[JohnL]

edhistory Wrote:

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> I thought Alan Yentob had left the BBC.

They explained this on Sky - he has one show he does it seems called Imagine

[Loz]

JohnL Wrote:

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> > I thought Alan Yentob had left the BBC.

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> They explained this on Sky - he has one show he

> does it seems called Imagine

It should be called "Imagine Being Paid ?250k To Host A TV Show No One Watches"

[red devil]

Welcome to Loz TV News.

*Bows head slowly in deference to our blessed leader*

It's shit but at least we're only paid a pittance, and of course there's the incentive that if we're not up to scratch we get shot during the regional news feed...

 

[uncleglen]

I cannot believe what they are paid.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jun/13/tom-watson-urges-tories-to-reject-dup-plan-to-abolish-tv-licence-fee

No surprise he wants the licence fee to carry on since the BBC are Labour's biggest propagandists.

[rendelharris]

You are Viscount Rothermere and I claim my ?10...seriously, do you ever stop and think ooh, I might just be parroting rightwing clich?s here, I'm going to stop and think about what I say instead of jerking my knee the second I see the words BBC, or Muslims, or immigrants, or Labour, or unemployment benefit, or EU, or Polish builders, or any of the other countless groups your bitter hatred towards whom appears to consume you?

[keano77]

That's not like you Rendel, you're normally quite courteous.

Anyway I find the whole thing distasteful and it will only increase BBC wages with both women and male colleagues seeking parity.

That said I think Alex Jones is a very lucky lady to earn such a figure given no obvious talent

[Earl Aelfheah]

Salaries will only rise further now in light of pay gap. The radio hosts are the most surprising. What's the market there exactly? Hardly high level of competition.

[uncleglen]

RH is always rude to me because

1) He extrapolates my posts to what HE THINKS is being said (and he accuses me of lying which I am not)

2) He knows I am right about the BBC and all the other lefty establishment shyte that gets 'trotted' (geddit?) out every time something happens - and he doesn't like people who do not agree with him

[rendelharris]

I call you out on here because I find your opinions extraordinarily unpleasant, bigoted and based on falsehoods, some parroted from the usual right/far right sources of misinformation and some blatantly created by yourself (one still recalls with relish the Russian bloke you met in a pub who went into great detail for you about how he was fiddling the benefits system). Your posts frequently disparage immigrants, Muslims, minorities, the working class, "lefties" and basically anyone who isn't you. I don't care if you find my challenging you rude, people like you should be challenged forcefully at every opportunity.