Morning birthday ideas

[yeknomyeknom]

Thanks so much.

curlylocks Wrote:

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> You can swim in the lido without being a member.

> http://www5.fusion-lifestyle.com/centres/Brockwell

> _Lido/facility/Outdoor_pool

> Link to ticket prices at bottom of page & link to

> timetable in grey box on right...

[Jeremy]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> Haven't seen the bedrooms but from the original

> pitch I assume they've got nice bathrooms and lots

> of entertainment laid on.

It's not a boutique hotel, it's an Innkeeper's Lodge... i.e. cheap and cheerful chain, one step up from Travelodge.

[Mick Mac]

binkylilyput Wrote:

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> Dress up as the "new cleaner".....bring breakfast

> and bubbles obvs ;-)

That's a bit sexist in my book. Naughty.

[Mick Mac]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> Mick Mac, were you being intentionally sexist?

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Sexism - I don't think so - This is the Lounge and I was testing the fairness of some current family situations, where to pick a relevant example, Mum could have five years "off work", until little Jonny goes to school, but the child still gets to go to nursery twice a week, for his development with like minded conversationalists of his own age. Daddy gets to go to work every day.

I don't see what's sexist about having a discussion about fairness in modern day marriage.

Each to their own of course - work it out yourselves, that's what's important. There is no doubt woman have had a bad deal. But if the pendulum swings far enough then eventually we will need to address unfairness towards men in modern marriage. Will we not.

[KrackersMaracas]

I agree. Men are often unfairly discriminated against in this day and age. Look at that Diane Abbot thread. The way some people posting on there were set upon just for enquiring about someone's health...that's real persecution. Save the Males!

[yeknomyeknom]

Oh dear. Nice try Mick Mac.

Let me break this down for you.

Yes this is the lounge. A place for open discussion which we are having. That doesn't mean open discrimination is permitted.

If you were "testing the fairness" of my "current family situation". Why did you then say "sorry, I couldn't resist." Couldn't resist what? You knew you were being cheeky and that's why you apologised in advance. Regardless, the sexism wasn't in the supposed provocation of a discussion, but in your assumption that I don't work.

Your rather stunning example - are you saying in your example that something isn't fair? If so, isn't fair on who? The breadwinner in a family or the homemaker. I only ask to be polite because it's pretty clear from your first comment and the comment subsequent to your example that you think it's not fair on the breadwinner. This is so far off base that I haven't the time nor will to explain it you to you.

Then to your final point. A genuine attempt at a discussion which I am happy to address. The occasion where the pendulum will swing the other way is so far gone that is doesn't bear consideration. I want to give you an example as you did me. I?ll defer to the Everyday Sexism Project?s Laura Bates, who tackled this line of thinking in regards to employment (one of many many areas where sexism pervades):

"If you believe that the right person always gets the job, observes Bates, this must mean that you believe ?there are more than three times more men named John, qualified to lead FTSE 100 companies in the UK than all the women in the UK put together?. All the 32 MILLION women combined? Just statistically, that doesn?t make sense.?

Like I say, we are so very far from the tipping point in so many aspects.

What I think some people don't realise is feminism and anti Sexism is a battle for equality. Not for women to have the upper hand. All humans regardless of sex should want this for themselves and their children. I certainly care about this even more now I have a young son. See below a quote by a feminist with better words than me:

"In her 1991 book Schoolgirls, American journalist Peggy Orenstein tells the story of a schoolteacher who noticed that the girls in her class were taking up significantly less ?verbal space? than the boys. When she started making a conscious effort to call on female and male students equally, the boys complained that the girls were receiving preferential treatment. ?Equality [for these boys] was hard to get used to,? said the teacher. They perceived it as a loss. The reality is that if society is to become more equal, people who have traditionally occupied a disproportionate amount of space at the top ? will have to move aside to make room for more women and other historically marginalised groups. This will inevitably feel like a loss for some men. But those who really believe in equality, will understand why it?s necessary."

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> >

> > Mick Mac, were you being intentionally sexist?

> >

>

> Sexism - I don't think so - This is the Lounge and

> I was testing the fairness of some current family

> situations, where to pick a relevant example, Mum

> could have five years "off work", until little

> Jonny goes to school, but the child still gets to

> go to nursery twice a week, for his development

> with like minded conversationalists of his own

> age. Daddy gets to go to work every day.

>

> I don't see what's sexist about having a

> discussion about fairness in modern day marriage.

>

>

> Each to their own of course - work it out

> yourselves, that's what's important. There is no

> doubt woman have had a bad deal. But if the

> pendulum swings far enough then eventually we will

> need to address unfairness towards men in modern

> marriage. Will we not.

[Mick Mac]

Someone's getting a coating as Micky Flanagan would say.

[yeknomyeknom]

Lol.

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Someone's getting a coating as Micky Flanagan

> would say.

[hiit]

All family sets ups obviously differ Mic Mac, with different sorts of pressures on the 'homemaker' and the 'breadwinner' depending on the age of the kids / the nature of the breadwinner's job etc etc, but I know loads of Mums who couldn't wait to get back to work (and a fair few who went back even though it wasn't financially advantageous to do so...) - ie looking after 2 pre-schoolers ain't no picnic!

[caz6868]

Hi hope you found something to do with your husband on his birthday.

My friend took her husband for a 20min helicopter ride

?50 for 2 people on groupon