Jenny1 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Don't think he's got the attention span. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diable rouge Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 robbin Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I thought the nature of Twitter was people writing> narcissistic and/or self-serving (and generally> meaningless) drivel in the mistaken, but certain> belief that anyone else gives a t*ss!Well, I suppose if you look at Twitter accounts of that ilk, it's understandable why you would have such a jaundiced view... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbin Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I don't - but I read newspapers (remember them?) and nonsense that has appeared from all sorts of quarters on Twitter is often reported. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendelharris Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Although much of Twitter's pretty vacuous, more thoughtful users do employ it for the propagation of interesting and informative texts, either by linking elsewhere or providing text in the form of an accompanying picture, for example a screenshot of a Word document. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diable rouge Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 robbin Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I don't - but I read newspapers (remember them?)> and nonsense that has appeared from all sorts of> quarters on Twitter is often reported.Well, that certainly explains your jaundiced view. You do realise that what you wrote could equally apply to the EDF in some people's eyes? Just saying... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbin Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Indeed. It could certainly apply to this particular thread! It has to be by far the most self-serving one on here. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLeg Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 To be fair most *online* ?debate? about Brexit is pretty self-serving. It tends to exist in one echo chamber or another, consisting mostly of people reinforcing each other?s views about whatever stance they hold and arguing vociferously with interlopers who go against their flow. We?re just of guilty of that here, and I include myself in that. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny1 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 robbin Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Indeed. It could certainly apply to this> particular thread! It has to be by far the most> self-serving one on here.So what exactly do you find 'self-serving' about it? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny1 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 robbin Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I read newspapers (remember them?)Good idea. Me too. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny1 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 rendelharris Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Although much of Twitter's pretty vacuous, more> thoughtful users do employ it for the propagation> of interesting and informative texts, either by> linking elsewhere or providing text in the form of> an accompanying picture, for example a screenshot> of a Word document.Yes. I don't post on twitter but I'm really pleased to have found it as a source of info. from technocrats. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbin Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Jenny1 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> robbin Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Indeed. It could certainly apply to this> > particular thread! It has to be by far the most> > self-serving one on here.> > So what exactly do you find 'self-serving' about> it?Pretty much the whole content (which is generally only a few posters). I think JoeLeg summed it up perfectly when he said: "To be fair most *online* ?debate? about Brexit is pretty self-serving. It tends to exist in one echo chamber or another, consisting mostly of people reinforcing each other?s views about whatever stance they hold and arguing vociferously with interlopers who go against their flow. We?re just of guilty of that here, and I include myself in that." Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny1 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Ah. Sorry Robbin. I'd misunderstood you. I thought you were talking about the Twitter 'thread' written by David Allen Green, not this overall discussion thread.But as to the comments you and Joe Leg make. I think there's a difference between 'self-serving' - designed to increase the self esteem of the writer - and 'blinkered' - failing to take other points of view into account. And there seems to be me be a difference between people who operate very much from the 'heart' or from the 'head'. So sometimes you get emotion and belief packaged as factual argument. That's just annoying. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 The Vote Leave end game: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/18/rightwing-thinktanks-unveil-radical-plan-for-us-uk-brexit-trade-deal-nhs Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diable rouge Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Humans are tribal by nature, we self-identify from an early age, the so-called 'echo chamber' is just another manifestation of that... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyboy23 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Hard brexit Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diable rouge Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Are you feeling ok ted, there's no corny punchline?... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLeg Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyboy23 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Dr here it is mayor medical company's stockpiling V.agra Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1278777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 PM still talking bollocks...http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2018/09/20/theresa-may-still-talking-utter-bollocks-eu-leaders-reveal/ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1279246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Faisal Islam's summary of the Salzburg summitPM: it?s my Chequers Deal or No DealTusk: EU27 agree Chequers ?will not work?Dutch PM: Netherlands is more prepared than UK for No DealFrench PRes: UK politicos who sold Brexit are ?liars? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1279293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcam Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 A very fair summary!JohnL Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Faisal Islam's summary of the Salzburg summit> > PM: it?s my Chequers Deal or No Deal> Tusk: EU27 agree Chequers ?will not work?> Dutch PM: Netherlands is more prepared than UK for> No Deal> French PRes: UK politicos who sold Brexit are> ?liars? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1279300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbin Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Ha ha! All bog standard negotiation posturing. Nobody who knows about negotiating would be surprised by any of what has been emanating from the EU for the last 12 months in terms of posturing. It's only the UK that seems intent on signalling what we consider to be weaknesses in our negotiating position. Anyone who places much weight on posturing from the other side during a negotiation is displaying considerable naivety.As if the Dutch PM knows what preparations have/are taking place in the UK. Moreover, he of all people knows that the Netherlands has failed to prepare for a no deal scenario in extremely important respects and must now be worried. The letter leaked yesterday from within the EU (about how the Netherlands and other countries cannot be ready and will suffer serious consequences) made that very clear indeed in respect of aviation! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1279334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 :)https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/bDKia-DohYURbufAcuz_4Q/https/storify.com/services/proxy/2/NyKkyWnQVDTv0LJgxVQCfg/https/d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/J5ygIjk0RDeZp6PblTmo_RTS2247S.jpg Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1279336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbin Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Ha ha - great pic. At least she's not dancing! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1279337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 robbin Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Ha ha! All bog standard negotiation posturing. > Nobody who knows about negotiating would be> surprised by any of what has been emanating from> the EU for the last 12 months in terms of> posturing. It's only the UK that seems intent on> signalling what we consider to be weaknesses in> our negotiating position. Anyone who places much> weight on posturing from the other side during a> negotiation is displaying considerable naivety.> > As if the Dutch PM knows what preparations> have/are taking place in the UK. Moreover, he of> all people knows that the Netherlands has failed> to prepare for a no deal scenario in extremely> important respects and must now be worried. The> letter leaked yesterday from within the EU (about> how the Netherlands and other countries cannot be> ready and will suffer serious consequences) made> that very clear indeed in respect of aviation!I agree it's negotiation - but they just seem so much better at it than us - this tweet from Peston actually makes you feel sorry for her - the girl being excluded from the in crowd at school. You get the feeling it was all planned. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/157024-brexit-view/page/64/#findComment-1279346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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