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Alan Medic Wrote:

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> What the f... is TM hoping to achieve by declaring

> we will leave the EU on such a date at a

> particular time. 11 o'clock. Why not 10.30? Why

> bother say anything? This whole thing is worse

> than a farce.


Suspiciously emotive choice, given that WWI ended at 11AM and Britain's ultimatum to Germany in 1939 ran out at 11AM. They must be aware of the resonance of such times, but what it's intended to signal who knows?

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> What the f... is TM hoping to achieve by declaring

> we will leave the EU on such a date at a

> particular time. 11 o'clock. Why not 10.30? Why

> bother say anything? This whole thing is worse

> than a farce.


1. 11 o'clock at night in London amounts to midnight in Brussels.


2. I can only think of two reasons why May is making law what she intends to do anyway. The first is that she's not planning to be around by then and wants to leave an undeletable chunk of stupidity for her disloyal partners. A bit like revenge-porn.


The second is that it's been done before, in the Referendum Bill of 2013, when the Tories wrote the pledge to hold a referendum into law because, then as now, they weren't exactly in power and were perennially terrified that their venal plans to hold the country hostage for the convenience of their vile paymasters could be easily overturned by anything approaching democracy. Happily for them, we still have first-past-the-post, and most still vote for useful idiots, based solely on the colour of their badge.

red devil Wrote:

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> Burbage Wrote:

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>

> > 1. 11 o'clock at night in London amounts to

> > midnight in Brussels.

>

> A huge irony that it's deferring to European

> time...taking back control :)


Clever Brits, timed so as to coincide with the witching hour in Brussels when creatures such as witches, demons, ghosts, gremlins, Juncker and Barnier are abroad

uncleglen Wrote:

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> 'Brextremists'- I suppose by the Laws of Equal and

> Opposite reactions someone had to counter

> 'Remaniacs'


Personally I prefer the counter to "Remoaners" - "Brexshitters." Oh why don't we all grow up and stop name calling etc etc - just to save anyone else the trouble...

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> I wonder why letters get leaked? Johnson & Gove

> appear to be running the Brexit show......

>

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5073567/Bo

> ris-Gove-s-plot-hijack-Number-10-exposed.html



Goves wife isn't it.


Anyway nice take off of the John Lewis ad sees Boris under Theresa's bed and a present that falls apart.

Theresa May gets to live another few weeks as PM - It's premier league manager stuff :)



I assume this deal will be either (1) Take the deal or (2) Exit with no deal


We now want to make sure it becomes more like (1) Take the deal (2) go back and re-negotiate (3) Remain (4) Exit with no deal

red devil Wrote:

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> JohnL Wrote:

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> > I assume this deal will be either (1) Take the

> > deal or (2) Exit with no deal

>

>

> Wasn't that already on the table and what MPs were

> fighting against?...


Yes I think - but all David Davis has said today is the bill will be put forward for a binding vote by parliament and if it fails the bill will not go through (that's the entire repeal act - so no EU laws will be copied across to UK - for me that would be chaotic)).


Surely at that point the government would fall. So is this a confidence motion in effect ?

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