Narnia Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 She doesn't think twice fullstop. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Narnia Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I don't think so.> > Where does it say you need a licence to watch> iplayer DJ? I think you owe HAL an apology and> Ladymuck too! It doesn't even say it on the back> of the licence either.> > > DJKillaQueen Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > HAL you are incorrect I'm afraid. You DO need a> TV> > licence if you watch content on iplayer/> internet> > or a mobile phone. It states it on the back of> the> > licence.You DO need a TV licence if you watch LIVE content on iplayer (ie at time of TV broadcast)as I stated above. Not if only watch catch-up.The first time you watch LIVE content on iplayer this will be pointed out to you on screen.In other words:- broadcast/live (whatever medium): licence required- narrowcast e.g. catch-up: no licence required Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Run Leprechaun, run... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Oh this really is TOO much for my pea-brain!So: live (whatever medium) = doshIplayer = freeHave I got that right? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narnia Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 What is BBC iplayer?It's catch up TV, not live. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Thank you Louisiana, I've worked for the BBC many times over the years......so I should know ;-) and yes BBC iplayer does point out you need a licence to watch it's content. The website states;Everyone in the UK who watches or records TV as it is broadcast needs to be covered by a TV licence. This includes TV on computers, mobile phones, DVD/video recorders and other devices. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Hmmm but then the site also says.....You do not need a television licence to watch television programmes on the current version of the BBC iPlayer. You will need to be covered by a TV licence if and when the BBC provides a feature that enables you to watch 'live' TV programmes on any later version of the BBC iPlayer which has this option... A 'live' TV programme is a programme which is watched or recorded at the same time (or virtually the same time) as it is being broadcast... OK so I'm wrong on that point it seems and might get rid of my TV lol. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Ting! Pea-brain has finally grasped the situation correctly. Phew, that was hard work!BUT now, the whole thing doesn't make any sense, because - it seems - we can all ditch our TVs and watch programmes (albeit slightly later than the live broadcast) on a computer/phone etc. without having to purchase a Licence.*scratches head* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narnia Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Quote On THAT point. What other point was there? I've worked for the BBC.............haha.As for ditching your TV's, I doubt the iplayer covers everything that has been broadcast by the beeb and obviously it wouldn't cover 'live' events. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Yep it would seem so and that suits me fine because I mostly watch things on iplayer anyway. Only snag is that I listen to a lot of BBC radio too. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 LOL Narnia...I have worked for the BBC and I would say that most people there 'wrongly' have the view that watching any BBC content requires a licence. Happy to admit that's not the case ;-). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narnia Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 That's not a snag. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Even better........And it is also true that owning a tv in itself doesn't require a licence until you switch it on and watch something (which is why a licence inspection has to catch actually with the TV on before you can be prosecuted) but I can do without the TV set anyway. Remember those TV detector van ads in the 70's and 80's? All a con lol. The advertising standards agency doesn't allow adverts like that now - i.e. ones that lie. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec John Moore Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I hope that if we didn't have a public service media organisation like the BBC then we would be clamouring for one. The news and comment on Radio 4 is diverse enough for me and where there is a suspicion of bias then the op, or whoever, should specify their concern and that can be discussed. I have found the reporting and comment from the BBC on the situation in Egypt to be very helpful in trying to get a sense of how worried we should be about destabilisation in the Middle East, for instance. Given its independent nature and its historical position in British and global society, I think it's safe to say that even those who don't pay a licence fee or who do and don't really need to, benefit from the BBC. Whether they like it or not. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpinjackflash Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Alec John Moore Wrote:------------------------------------------------------->I> have found the reporting and comment from the BBC> on the situation in Egypt to be very helpful in> trying to get a sense of how worried we should be> about destabilisation in the Middle East, for> instance. Given its independent nature and its> historical position in British and global society,> I think it's safe to say that even those who don't> pay a licence fee or who do and don't really need> to, benefit from the BBC. Whether they like it or> not.I don't benefit at all from the BBC. Re Egypt Crisis, I've been watching SKY News and Al Jazeera. I also read the paper! why do I need the BBC for that? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Although I think the BBC generally do an OK job, the TV license concept seems hopelessly outdated. Surely it's only a matter of time before the BBC channels and website are subscription based. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annette Curtain Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 DJKillaQueen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Even better........> > And it is also true that owning a tv in itself> doesn't require a licence until you switch it on> and watch something (which is why a licence> inspection has to catch actually with the TV on> before you can be prosecuted) but I can do without> the TV set anyway. Remember those TV detector van> ads in the 70's and 80's? All a con lol. The> advertising standards agency doesn't allow adverts> like that now - i.e. ones that lie.NO WAY, but they were state of the art technology.( weren't they ? ) ( whatever next? you'll be telling me there's a 300lb gorilla in the room )http://www.escapade.co.uk/ProductImages/SALEHIRE/Medium/King-Kong-costume-c.jpg:) A. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeban Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I'm sorry but the BBC is bias- all media is biased and you shouldn't think otherwise- and to me it seems the BBC is especially biased towards issues in the Middle East. For example, I've noticed a strong anti- Israeli, pro Palestinian sentiment over the years.It seems your comment above even proves my point -'trying to get a sense of how worried we should be about destabilisation in the Middle East, for instance'. I don't find the BBC benefits me in the least and I can happily and do happily go without. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 There's a 300lb gorilla in the room! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec John Moore Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Hi Zeban, I always find it difficult writing posts on the forum so apologies if I'm not making my point cleary enough. My general view is that having indepedent media is some protection from the inevitable bias we get in all communications. The BBC is largely free from the influence of state and private sector influence because of the way it is funded, because of its governance structure and because of its public service remit. My view is also that our democracy would be less secure if it was not for the public services ethos in the media and therefore we all benefit from this. I used the example of Radio 4's reproting of the situation in Egypt because it is current and it has provided a number of different voices on the situation. The reassuring thing for me, and I may well be proved wrong depending how events unfold over the next few days and weeks, is that there is a great deal of tolerance and stability in Eyptian society and that it isn't there because of a ruler who maintained stability through oppressive rule. My other general point is that we all, and I include myself in this, interpret media and all forms of communication according to our own personal, cultural sensibilities. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Rabbit Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 The BBC website on its own is worth the money. Dig deep and see what it can offer. Oh! by the way - you can watch all EIGHT BBC TV programmes LIVE on their web site in addition to i-player and BBC archive. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-405866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acumenman Posted January 31, 2011 Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 The thing I use most from the BBC is radio4 and you no longer need a radio licence:-SRadio 7 would be second but you need a DAB radio so that is unavailable in the car which is a disgrace.(6) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-406013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 zeban Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I'm sorry but the BBC is bias- all media is biased> and you shouldn't think otherwise- and to me it> seems the BBC is especially biased towards issues> in the Middle East. For example, I've noticed a> strong anti- Israeli, pro Palestinian sentiment> over the years.I've spent some time in Israel and the occupied territories so I take some interest in these areas, plus I listen to BBC radio every day of my life, but I can't say I've noticed the BBC is "especially biased". I find programmes such as From Our Own Correspondent very informative and balanced.Can you point to any particular broadcast? We all come to where we are with a set of experiences that predisposes us to particular views, so...> > It seems your comment above even proves my point> -'trying to get a sense of how worried we should> be about destabilisation in the Middle East, for> instance'. I can't see how that statement proves any such point.Surely 'trying to get a sense' is what people are doing when they listen to/watch/read the media. Everyone. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-406016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeban Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 'trying to get a sense of how worried we should be about destabilisation in the Middle East, - sounds quite negative to me. A lot of people think the unrest and destabilisation is a good thing. Although I may be reading into that comment too much.In regards to the Israeli coverage I think it was the coverage of the incident with the ship coming into Gaza. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-406060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acumenman Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 To get back on topic why do the BBC only broadcast radio7 so it can only be received by a DAB radio?Any BBC employees out there. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15513-tv-licence-an-iniquitous-tax/page/2/#findComment-406090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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