Keef Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 race is an irrelevance to this it's just part of inner city/tougher suburb life and nowadays inner city youths in london are more likely to be black/mixed race.Glasgow got plenty of white boys stabbing innitThat is the point I was trying to make, but I think you've put it better. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15499-man-stabbed-to-death-near-east-dulwich-station/page/13/#findComment-409843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeps Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 NarniaYet another poster who realises that Penguin68 recycles daily mail / book read rot - without the intelligence of their own formed opinion.I would dearly love to meet he/she to discuss some of the posts which I now watch closely!-------------------------------------------------------> Narnia wrote :-> > Quote:> penguin68:Young men and violence are easy> bedfollows> > > On what grounds can you possibly justify this> statement? If you can't then I won't take anything> you write seriously.> > I think you will find that almost all reported> acts of mindless (gang) violence in our streets> are associated with young men (there are some girl> gangs, but relatively few). I am not saying that> all young men are violent, but that when men are> young, testosterone fuelled (as young men are) and> wanting to make their mark in a sociey, violence> is a typical response. Add alcohol as a> disinhibiter (and very many do) and you have a> recipe for violence. > > There are some 'young middle aged' violent men> (some of the football gangs of the 70s and 80s had> 25-35 year old thugs in them) but, in the main,> violence is a young man's game. You are violent> often when you have nothing much to lose (no> family yet to support, often no job worth it's> name to risk losing) when you are physically at a> peak and when you have over-much energy (it's> amazing how a full-time demanding job and> full-time demanding children can wear you out). > > I could refer you, but I won't, to numerous> articles by social anthropologists on the links to> gang or group violence and late adolesence, and> how this normally dissipates over time. And the> numerous studies showing how male children have a> tendancy to play-act violent confrontations (Cops> & Robbers, Cowboys and Indians in my day). Many> young (male) animals also 'play-fight' and then,> as young adults, really fight over mates etc.> > The young have two things going for them, physcial> vigour and a sense of personal immortality.> Without those we wouldn't have the necessary fuel> to sustain the wars that older men (politicians)> get others to undertake for them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15499-man-stabbed-to-death-near-east-dulwich-station/page/13/#findComment-410532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewGuy Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 BBC News - Teenager charged over London bus murder Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15499-man-stabbed-to-death-near-east-dulwich-station/page/13/#findComment-412980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 South London Press report today that a 16 year old Peckham boy has been charged with this murder. He can't be named for legal reasons and was due to appear at Croydon Youth Court yesterday.Five other males aged 13,15,18,20 and 23 have been arrested and given bail in connection with this murder. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15499-man-stabbed-to-death-near-east-dulwich-station/page/13/#findComment-413568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratty Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 This case has now gone to trial!http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16490529 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15499-man-stabbed-to-death-near-east-dulwich-station/page/13/#findComment-513369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santerme Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Thank goodness, perhaps the Court can come here for the analysis of norms of youth behaviour prior to any sentencing. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15499-man-stabbed-to-death-near-east-dulwich-station/page/13/#findComment-513402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzy Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 my 15 year old son was waiting for a bus in dulwich by jaflong when 3 drunken men passed him one bumped into my son and they both apologised to each other ,but the guys 2 friends werent happy with this so decided to beat my son up ,3 grown men on to one solitary teenager ,my son managed to defend himself as best he could but was stabbed three times by one of them thankfully they werent serious although he now has a 2 inch scar on his chest and just recently whilst travelling to school near london bridge was attacked by 2 men for not handing ove his mobile phone ,one of them cut him with a stanley knife ,needless to say im scared for him everytime he goes out ,hes not a gang memeber just a normal teenage boy trying to go about his business .london is a scary place for our teenagers growing up ! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15499-man-stabbed-to-death-near-east-dulwich-station/page/13/#findComment-513582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratty Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17065006Guilty verdict and Life Imprisonment! GMG Gang? WABOFC! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15499-man-stabbed-to-death-near-east-dulwich-station/page/13/#findComment-523591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizenED Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I saw that too Ratty. Such an awful event. Rest in Peace, Daniel. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15499-man-stabbed-to-death-near-east-dulwich-station/page/13/#findComment-523724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Despite the fact we hear about stabbings far too often, this murder genuinely upset me. As his mother said, he died alone, and must have been so scared.Glad to hear his family have gotten some justice, but it changes nothing.RIP indeed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15499-man-stabbed-to-death-near-east-dulwich-station/page/13/#findComment-523805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Agree but 'life imprisonment' my arse. The two youngest killers will be walking the streets again in their early 30s. Some justice. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15499-man-stabbed-to-death-near-east-dulwich-station/page/13/#findComment-523864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibilly99 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,673347,673366 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/15499-man-stabbed-to-death-near-east-dulwich-station/page/13/#findComment-523876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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