Flight path over se22

[MoysieC]

Lucymerc, I think you may have noticed the noise from the City airport planes as we had easterly winds for about a week or so last week. The City airport flights are low - about 1500 feet and pretty loud as a result.

The majority of the time we get the Heathrow planes which are much bigger and louder planes but higher in the sky - around 4000 feet. Despite the height, because they're generally bigger planes, the noise travels much further and impacts a wider area. There are also more of them - flying from around 4.30am until 11pm at night.

It is incredibly frustrating that we are on a flight path whichever way the wind is blowing so get no respite from noise. There appears to be no joined up thinking/ consideration of this by the powers that be.

If you find the plane noise impacts you negatively, please reply to the Government's consultation on the 3rd runway at Heathrow (which will obviously increase the number of planes and therefore noise). See my previous post for details. It runs out on 25 May.

[Rosetta]

hpsaucey Wrote:

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> > Somebody appears to have crept back after their

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> > Planes aren't a problem.

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> Planes aren't a problem to you/where you live hat

> is.

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> So much local variation in the noise levels. Have

> moved just 10 mins walk from my old house where

> the noise was pretty bad. In new location hardly

> notice them.

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> Hp

I agree. Can you say where you were and where you moved to?

[Earl Aelfheah]

Wait for the third runway.

[Lucymerc]

Thank you MoysieC (and others). Very informative

[hpsaucey]

Rosetta Wrote:

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> > > Somebody appears to have crept back after

> their

> > > ban.

> > >

> > > Planes aren't a problem.

> >

> > Planes aren't a problem to you/where you live

> hat

> > is.

> >

> > So much local variation in the noise levels.

> Have

> > moved just 10 mins walk from my old house where

> > the noise was pretty bad. In new location

> hardly

> > notice them.

> >

> > Hp

>

> I agree. Can you say where you were and where you

> moved to?

Moved from solomons passage peckham rye park to surrey road a bit south. Think the acoustics in our old shared courtyard made it even worse. Sometimes woken at 4.30 a.m. and impossible to get back to sleep. Thay was with double glazing. Now in drafty single glazed victorian house and no problem.

Hp

[edcam]

Well this only indicates that there isn't a general problem.

hpsaucey Wrote:

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> > > > Somebody appears to have crept back after

> > their

> > > > ban.

> > > >

> > > > Planes aren't a problem.

> > >

> > > Planes aren't a problem to you/where you live

> > hat

> > > is.

> > >

> > > So much local variation in the noise levels.

> > Have

> > > moved just 10 mins walk from my old house

> where

> > > the noise was pretty bad. In new location

> > hardly

> > > notice them.

> > >

> > > Hp

> >

> > I agree. Can you say where you were and where

> you

> > moved to?

>

>

> Moved from solomons passage peckham rye park to

> surrey road a bit south. Think the acoustics in

> our old shared courtyard made it even worse.

> Sometimes woken at 4.30 a.m. and impossible to get

> back to sleep. Thay was with double glazing. Now

> in drafty single glazed victorian house and no

> problem.

>

> Hp

[hpsaucey]

edcam Wrote:

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> Well this only indicates that there isn't a

> general problem.

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> > > > > Somebody appears to have crept back after

> > > their

> > > > > ban.

> > > > >

> > > > > Planes aren't a problem.

> > > >

> > > > Planes aren't a problem to you/where you

> live

> > > hat

> > > > is.

> > > >

> > > > So much local variation in the noise

> levels.

> > > Have

> > > > moved just 10 mins walk from my old house

> > where

> > > > the noise was pretty bad. In new location

> > > hardly

> > > > notice them.

> > > >

> > > > Hp

> > >

> > > I agree. Can you say where you were and where

> > you

> > > moved to?

> >

> >

> > Moved from solomons passage peckham rye park to

> > surrey road a bit south. Think the acoustics in

> > our old shared courtyard made it even worse.

> > Sometimes woken at 4.30 a.m. and impossible to

> get

> > back to sleep. Thay was with double glazing.

> Now

> > in drafty single glazed victorian house and no

> > problem.

> >

> > Hp

'Well this only indicates that there isn't a general problem.' And? this doesn't mean it isn't a problem.

[edcam]

hpsaucey Wrote:

> 'Well this only indicates that there isn't a

> general problem.' And? this doesn't mean it isn't

> a problem.

Well it doesn't appear to be a problem for most people. What do you suggest? That they move the flight path over other people's houses?

[hpsaucey]

edcam Wrote:

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> > 'Well this only indicates that there isn't a

> > general problem.' And? this doesn't mean it

> isn't

> > a problem.

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> Well it doesn't appear to be a problem for most

> people. What do you suggest? That they move the

> flight path over other people's houses?

Ooh you're prickly! Please share your rigorously researched survey of 'most people'.

Your surmising about what you believe I might suggest says a lot ... about you.

Calm down ... Peace, love, zen, its friday and all that.

[KidKruger]

I think it's Thursday bro.

It had better be or I'm way behind on this week's task list.

[edcam]

Actually it was Wednesday when I posted :-) I can't say it's a rigorously researched survey but having lived in the area for 22 years, the only times I've ever come across anyone moaning about aircraft noise in ED is a handful of people on here.

I wasn't being prickly by the way, just amused. I think you've got a little bit of projection going on there hpsaucey, which makes sense, given your "sensitivity" to sounds.

[mikeb]

I've lived around here for 12 years. The aircraft noise has sucked the entire time. I can't sleep with my windows open unless I actually want to be awake at 4.30am. I live near a busy road with buses and the aircraft noise is much worse - it's pretty much constant with barely any silence between the flights.

Particularly galling are the rare occasions when planes are landing over East Dulwich into both Heathrow and City (yes this does happen when there has been an easterly that has lapsed into no wind; I've spoken with NATS about it).

[edit - reading and commenting in posts like these makes me feel slightly better about it - a problem shared is a problem doubled and all that ...]

[hpsaucey]

edcam Wrote:

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> Actually it was Wednesday when I posted :-) I

> can't say it's a rigorously researched survey but

> having lived in the area for 22 years, the only

> times I've ever come across anyone moaning about

> aircraft noise in ED is a handful of people on

> here.

>

> I wasn't being prickly by the way, just amused. I

> think you've got a little bit of projection going

> on there hpsaucey, which makes sense, given your

> "sensitivity" to sounds.

Well, I'm glad you're trying to project amused but prickly. That's good anyway.

No person can judge another person's 'sensitivity' to sound objectively - that would be 'projection' wouldn't it? That is partly the point when you say there isn't a 'general problem' - projection.

And thank fudge I've gained a day and its actually Thursday. I blame the red wine intake.