Jeremy Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I actually think that the cheap little place (is it called Cafe Noodle or something?) does better food then chopsticks or Mr Liu! That's not saying much though.As for Wagamama - it's not the best, plenty of places do nicer Japanese style noodles - such as Edo in Crystal Palace/Upper Norwood (or whatever that place is called). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-2509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Hmmm, well, in the broader scheme of things noodles are the food of the devil.And you wear more than you could possibly eat.BUT did have them for tea last night.... ;-)And I slightly blame their insubstantial nature for the crashing hangover I'm sporting today like a well feathered hat. Deeply sorry Mockney ::oIncidentally, does anyone remember 'Borderline' by Madonna? It's on the radio at the moment, and I'm trying to work out if I ever fancied her... [Don't think so, but callow youth and that] Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-2513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Yep, I know it was off topic, but fug it, go with the flow and such.... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-2514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly D Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 "Borderline ... feels like I'm going to lose my mind ... you just keep on pushing my love over the borderline ... "I'm sure you did Huguenot, I even had a small crush on her myself! In a girly way of course, wearing lace in my hair circa 1980s and the Desperately Seeking Susan era Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-2526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Hurrah! Do you remember what a twerp Sean Penn was? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-2536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Some of us are at work with our crashing hangovers.God let this day end, pleeeeease.Yes a twerp, but superb in more than a film or two. Carlito's Way and Thin Red Line being notable examples. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-2541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalClear Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 what are you planing on doing tonight mockney? :)-D Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-2542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Agreed, but even Carlito's Way was 93, best part of seven years after he used to embarass himself with Madonnita http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091934/ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-2544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Are you suggesting I'm going to the pub?Oh poo, yes indeed. photoing too!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-2545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I'm thinking of setting up a Vietnamese restaurant in LL. Do you think there will be demand for Vietnamese cuisine? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-6293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I love Vietnamese food, eat Lunch at least once a week in my favourite Camden one Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-6294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 There are two types of Vietnamese restaurants in London, in my experience. Those which sell Vietnamese food, and those which sell sweet & sour pork. If your resaurant is the former, it may have sufficient demand! I think any restaurant along LL will do well as long as the food is good, and the environment is pleasant. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-6302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bald marauder Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 If it's a really good, authentic Vietnamese I think it will do very well (to be honest even it's average it will probably do OK - but would be much better if it's the real deal - Paris generally does Vietnamese food much better than London does...) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-6319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Yes I tend to agreed that Paris does very good Vietnamese food.Yes, it will be authentic Vietnamese using fresh ingredients. The only problem is finding a suitable A3 (Restaurant use)property in LL, there are no shops available. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-6387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monica Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 The only good italian resturant within the 2 mile radius is in crystal palace.Pizza express and bella pasta are not even italian,only very poor clones.Im a bona fide italian and i worked in my uncles italian ristorante for years in camberwell.La bella italia.My uncle would serenade the customers with his amazing tenor voice and sweet guitar,while customers nibbled on their saltimbocca or tagliatelle al diavolo.Now thats a authentic italian resturant,complete with breadsticks and winebottles used as candles.la nostalgia per la vita passata. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-6403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonM Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 I remember "La Bella Italia" - over the road from the "Father Red Cap"? - and your uncle and the breadsticks and the candles in wine bottles...! >:D< Oh for a decent Osso Buco or Saltimbocca alla Romana...But Luigi's at the foot of Gypsy Hill also used to be good, if hideously pricey! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-6409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadetownboy Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 la bella italia is that the one up the walworth road on the right hand side(city bound). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-6410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 No, that's La Dolce Vita. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-6413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domitianus Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Curious to know. When does a group of shops become a 'chain'? Apparently Strada is ok because there are only about 10 of them. If there were 11 would that tip the balance in making them the unacceptable face of corporate, global, satanic, world-dominating, environment devastating, indigenous-people oppressing, neo-Fascist capitalist pigs? Or would they have to get to 12 shops first? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-8739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 I don't think we've ever resolved this one Dominatrix (disappointed to discover that's not an Asterix character)...There was an interesting angle some months ago that suggested that GBK was the devil's spawn because it had centralised its production of burgers, not because of the number of outlets. I note it now has 22 locations.This suggests that at somepoint there's a conditional that comes into play that involves some of the following criteria:Number of outletsBuyingProductionDistributionDelegated authorityFundingOwnershipLocal tailoring and innovationHence it seems to be possible to overcome a high number of outlets on the 'b*st@rd' scale if a business supports decentralised management and local innovation.One could probably get a namecheck in a national paper if one could devise a plausible equation to come out with a percentage and a compartmentalised scale.This should tie in with the current Tescos debate of course, and both name check the EDF and say something disparaging about the french just for me :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-8777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Huguenot Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I don't think we've ever resolved this one> Dominatrix (disappointed to discover that's not an> Asterix character)...> > There was an interesting angle some months ago> that suggested that GBK was the devil's spawn> because it had centralised its production of> burgers, not because of the number of outlets. I> note it now has 22 locations.> > This suggests that at somepoint there's a> conditional that comes into play that involves> some of the following criteria:> > Number of outlets> Buying> Production> Distribution> Delegated authority> Funding> Ownership> Local tailoring and innovationI think it's when they adopt wholesale Adam Smith's philosophy, and treat the whole enterprise as a pin factory.Louisiana Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-8790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Ah.How are we to know when that point has been reached? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-8794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultraconsultancy Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 There's an oft quoted rule that says the critical numbers of outlets that drive culture change in companies are 7 and 27.I've never found them to be untrue; in fact I have seen the 8th and 28th units bring about downfall on several occasions!In reality the main issue is local managerial delegation; those who do it will adapt, those who don't will wither on the vine. The public synergise into this narrative often in a subconcsious mindset, too.You feel manipulated in cookie cutter businesses because [even osmotically] you know you are.Ultra Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-8801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bald marauder Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Are there any 'chains' that buck this trend - ie where you don't feel manipulated, where people still engage with you on a human level, where you can feel some kind of 'osmotic' (nice word, Ultra!) connection to the people who actually run the business?Given its scale, I think that Pret a Manger does pretty well on these counts - though I'm sure there are plenty of people who would disagree... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-8826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
katietatie Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Leaping back to the Italian thing, what do people make of Mozarella & Pomodoro in Camberwell? I've read some reasonable reviews but thought it distinctly mediocre when i visited. Did i just happen to dine with them on a bad day or is that a fair assessment? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/152-new-business-on-ll/page/2/#findComment-8827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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