jaywalker Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Oh God, Prof. Curtice now saying it could be anywhere from hung parliament to 80 Tory Majority .....No! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 He must've factored in the first two returns which went against the exit poll and in favour of the Tories in terms of swing. But they were 2 NE seats, UKIP crashed, that doesn't mean it will be replicated everywhere. It might be an election full of surprises with no general trend. Labour taking Amber Rudd's seat in Hastings being one such surprise... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Not a surprise in Hastings as they hate her. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Can't argue with that :)Tories hold Swindon North but swing to Labour more than exit poll... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leminks Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 i like it Lordship 516 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> June sees the end of May..!I ad - the house always wins Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Yes, most recent results suggest exit poll correct. More than expected to Tories in Ruritanian North, but more to Labour in Enlightened South.Hung Parliament, and YouGov shares rising sharply.May out, Rudd defeated. A little bit unclear what will happen next (although brexit = brexit is now proved false). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 At this point looks like Cons will not get majority. Hung parliament. Clarke talking cross-party. Looks like Gummer (May's choice for Brexit talks after she sidelined Davies) will lose his seat. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Looks like even Kensington will fall to Labour. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miga Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Who'd a thunk it, turns out when Labour does Labour things, people vote for them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLeg Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I'm amazed. I really didn't think politics could surprise me like that anymore. I was very wrong, just didn't think the youth vote could mobilise itself like that. Well, there we are.We live in interesting times. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Me too.I had thought the best results was a big majority for the Tories because I felt that would mean Brexit negotiations would be hardball but I agree with Jaywalker this brings Brexit back in play as an issue.Corbyn's campaign was absolutely brilliant but I still think his policies would/will be a disaster for this country so am very glad no majority and Tories still biggest party.Surprisingly upbeat about this result as feels like most people are really in the middle ground and Tories moving into UKIP territory now surely buried.Finally had a bet on Labour to get 250+ seats at the beginning of campaign at 3 figure odds so big pay out :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLeg Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Yes, I'm ecstatic at the UKIP collapse. And I agree it's a recognition of where this country is politically; I hope Westminster recognises this and tries to work towards consensus and stops playing sections of society off against each other.At this risk of being trite, there is more that unites us than divides us. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nxjen Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I'm feeling disproportionately happy at the results but will this mean another Con/LibDem coalition which will give a working majority to whoever is the Tory PM? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 May has no intention of resigning supposedly. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nxjen Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Hmmm, we'll see Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miga Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I'm hopeful we now won't get the full metal Brexit only a handful of nutters ever wanted. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabag Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Ok, so how long before another election ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules-and-Boo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 May will go. She might say she won't but she has a reputation for changing her mind. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLeg Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Seabag Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Ok, so how long before another election ?Five years. None of the other parties will agree to an early election, the prospect of screwing the Tories in that time is too good.May had managed to fuck her own party and hang onto her job. That kind of says it all to me. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Mayhem. Literally.Tory arrogance at calling election for some personal coronation backfires. Realignment of electorate on Brexit voting grounds, compounded by a decent Labour campaign. It seems Scotland has ironically saved May from immediate resignation, snap election within months. DUP To back her in meantime.1974 all over again, election by October. Single market back on table. Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miga Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 She made the right call based on the information she had - I saw it as a classic display of power, like when Germany are up 4:0 against Brazil and still going for it. It was meant to give Tories power for decades. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendelharris Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Amusing that the party which set itself up as being the stable alternative to chaos has twice in a year gambled on an unnecessary poll and had it blow up in their faces.Suspect no second election in the near future, but can't see May hanging on for long with Boris and others licking their chops on the sidelines (which is why no second election, May is an absolute lame duck but any new leader would want time to consolidate and to let any charges of disloyalty fade). But the only predictable thing about the future these days is that it's unpredictable! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLeg Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 They won't be an early election, because the Fixed Term Parliaments Act means that she needs the Commons to vote for it. The other parties aren't going to let her off the hook, not when they can spend 5 years kicking them at every opportunity.The DUP won't want to give up their kingmaker position either. We're stuck with this for five years. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLeg Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 miga Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> She made the right call based on the information> she had - I saw it as a classic display of power,> like when Germany are up 4:0 against Brazil and> still going for it. It was meant to give Tories> power for decades.I agree, admit that I thought they were going to give Labour a kicking. But it turned out different. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 'Ol Boris was very evasive when asked if he still supported May. "It's early days yet" probably translates into No. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/149762-8-june/page/39/#findComment-1144667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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