Southwark Primary School Results 2010 Key Stage 2

[Dodo1]

Sorry- souldn't cut and paste article so please put link below in your web browser:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/leaguetables/8199258/Primary-league-tables-Key-Stage-2-results-for-2010.html

[samstopit]

Thanks for this. Can I ask (I know I should know this by now) what age are kids when they take the key stage 2 tests?

Thanks

[Dodo1]

I should know this! 7 if I recall.

[samstopit]

Thanks. My eldest starts school next year so I need to get my head round all this stuff.

Good to see that Goose Green did so well.

[victor]

Samstopit, these tables show the end of Key Stage 2 results, so the children are 11

[Coach Beth]

Thanks for this - wow I am so pleased at how well all our local schools have done!

Goose Green at 79% followed by Heber at 76%, then St John's at 73% and Goodrich at 71%(percentage refers to the numbers of students achieving level 4 and above in English and maths)

As a Goose Green parent, I'd like to thank the Headteacher and all the fab teaching staff for their dedication in working with all the students to turn the school from a failing school to one that is now in the top half of all the school in Southwark!! Well Done!!! And well done to all our local schools - these results show that East Dulwich is fortunate in having good primary schools!!! HURRAH!

And yes, these results are based on the tests of the year six students in spring 2010 so the children were 11 at the time of testing.

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[goosemum]

Congratulations to all the staff and pupils at Goose Green Primary, especially the outstanding Year 6 teachers, Mr Sawh and Mr Robinson. This is proof that hard work, dedication and strong leadership really can turn a school around!

[Sqiggles]

Don't forget Bessemer Grange School - SE5 so you might not pick uit up on an SE22 search. Got 74%. Well done to all the pupils and staff.

[Coach Beth]

Quite right Sqiggles - Bessemer Grange is a great local school - on the up and lots of positive things I've been hearing about this school too. Well done to Bessemer Grange!!!!

[taper]

National average is 73. Bessemer's added value is very good. And Dog Kennell Hill boycotted the tests.

[supergolden88]

Just looked at table and realised that Turnham in Lewisham came no2 with amazing results. We decided to send daughter to Ivydale instead which is bottom of barrel in Southwark. Am agonising over decision. My husband says it doesn't matter is behind our choice but I am not so sure.

[nunheadmum]

Just noticed that the school my little one is due to start next month is lowest of all the schools we thought of putting down when choosing. (We got our first choice). Yet everyone I speak to at the school couldn't say better things about it.

I'm the first to say to others that league tables and Ofsted's only tell one part of the story and need to be taken in context but I think I'll need to keep repeating that to myself over the next few weeks!!

[Queenie23]

If you are talking about a primary school in Nunhead - ie Ivydale - then I think you don't need to worry. My child was in the year 6 just gone which have just had their sats published. My child got the top level in English and Maths and I have always been very happy with the school. The ofsted that has just been published was quite critical but you do have to look at the school as a whole. It has never had very good sats and when we sent our child there the results were awful but it appealed to us because it had a happy caring ethos, musical and creative etc which is much more important than teaching just to get good sats. I think that the governors have taken their eye off the ball because they became obsessed with introducing a school uniform into the school last year and from what I can see didn't seem to bother about anything else. I know that this probably contributed to the last head leaving and I think he became exhausted with it all. However, the school now has a new head and I hope that she will tackle the various issues that Ofsted flagged up - there is no reason to think that she won't. Instead of worrying about your choice of school think how you can contribute to supporting it when your child starts there.

[The Nappy Lady]

It's interesting to see Goose Green doing so well, given that it was in special measures not so long ago - the children who have just had their results announced would have been at the school throughout all the 'problems' but have still done really well.

I think to some extent this proves that no matter how much you study results, ofsted reports etc they can only tell you so much.

Of course we all want to see our childrens school at the top of the list (only natural as a caring parent), but I don't think any of us should be in a panic.

As for Ivydale, I agree the school got distracted by the uniform issue last year, this ofsted is by no means a disaster and if it results in some marked improvements (which I am confident it will) then it can only be a good thing.

[nunheadmum]

Sorry - don't mean to hijack the thread to be all about Ivydale. But if the governors can get so absorbed by one issue that the sats results suffer, problems are picked up by Ofsted and the head teacher leaves, that does get me worried. (A lot more than just the Sats news alone did!)

But hopefully once my LO starts I'll be so taken by all the positives that I'm always hearing about, the great new head teacher (in addition to the existing excellent ones) and finding myself behind one of those tables at the next Fete, that in 6 months time I'll wonder what on earth I was worrying about!

[Queenie23]

The school uniform issues are all firmly in the past now- it was a very unpleasant time at the school as there was very strong feeling both for and against it and it all got out of hand. However,the issues about uniform moved on/gone away and there has quite a few governor resignations so the governing body now has new blood which is a good thing. As I said, think how you can positively contribute to the school - maybe even becoming a governor yourself in time - and rest assured Ivydale is a good school. My children LOVE it there.

[James Barber]

Eitherway, East Dulwich schools have done well.

Congratulations to the kids, parents, governors, teachers, support staff, heads and council officers who have all made this possible.

I have the good fortune to know and meet a whole host of local kids and I think they have the potential to do even better. Fingers crossed they do.

From April they'll be extra money to support kids from the poorest back grounds and their cohort to ensure those deprived backgrounds don't get in the way of all our school kids acheiving more. ?5M in total for Southwark primary schools via those Pupil Premiums.

[new mother]

To any teachers reading this thread, What does this particular stage actually test? What does success in it mean? Many thanks

[Queenie23]

James Barber Wrote:

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> Eitherway, East Dulwich schools have done well.

> Congratulations to the kids, parents, governors,

> teachers, support staff, heads and council

> officers who have all made this possible.

> I have the good fortune to know and meet a whole

> host of local kids and I think they have the

> potential to do even better. Fingers crossed they

> do.

> From April they'll be extra money to support kids

> from the poorest back grounds and their cohort to

> ensure those deprived backgrounds don't get in the

> way of all our school kids acheiving more. ?5M in

> total for Southwark primary schools via those

> Pupil Premiums.

Really? Another Lib Dem promise that won't deliver.......

(I quote the Guardian) "The fine print of the proposal reveals that the new ?430 ($677) so‑called pupil premium could actually take away cash from some of the most deprived areas of the country. The complex funding mechanism could concentrate the "extra" money on disadvantaged pupils in county schools, rather than urban ones.

Shadow schools minister Andy Burnham said the pupil premium was a con, and that no new money was being put into helping the poorest. "

Sorry James Barber, don't trust anything your party says anymore....

[mrs.lotte]

As I understand it, and am no expert, the figures include a value added which allows for the improvement between the end of key stage one and the end of key stage two; effectively how good the teaching is. The brilliant results at Goose Green, the highest of the local community schools, achieved whilst those poor teachers were coping with the strain and scrutiny of special measures is to their eternal credit. I agree that SATS are only one aspect of a school but in GGs case it is, in combination with it being the first school in Southwark to achieve the every child matters award, solid proof that it is going places fast thanks, in no small part, to a refreshed teaching staff and strong leadership. So academic performance is not the be all and end all but hard to ignore!

If your confidence in your choice of primary school is knocked by the poor results of your chosen school then, if you haven't already, go and see it and others again speak to parents with children at the schools and ultimately don't be fooled into thinking that certain schools are "good" and others are "bad".

Goose Green has an open day on the 11th January (4 days I believe before the closing date for applications for reception places. We are told that we will be accomodating a bulge class so we are looking like quite a good bet.

[Ann]

I'm just delighted that so many local schools are doing well. For those of you with very young children, you may not get the school of your choice but your input as a parent is immeasurable. It seems Goose Green have proved what Heber proved just a few years ago, good management and supportive parents make a good school.

[James Barber]

Hi Queenie,

You're correct in sense schools budget in cash terms will receive no cuts and stay the same - which with inflation implies a real terms cut BUT 90%+ of school budget is salaries and public sector pay freeze (as many private companies had had in place for some time). So in absolute real terms that near as dammit means no cut.

An extra ?2.5bn from other public sector budget has been earmarked for the Pupil Premium which will bring an extra ?5M to Southwark schools.

Apologies to veryone else as I really had'nt intended to distract from the excellent SAT results.

[espelli]

newmother - The Key Stage 2 tests are in English and Maths. There is a reading comprehension test, two writing tasks (one 20 minutes and one 45 minutes) and a spelling test. The scores from all of these are put together to get the final English level. For maths there are two 45 minute tests (one without a calculator and one with) and a mental maths test. These all count towards the final Maths level. Until 2009 there were two tests for science as well.

Children can achieve levels 3-5 in the Key Stage 2 tests. Any levels outside of that will be assessed by teacher assessment. The average child is expected to be a mid level 4 by the end of Year 6. The tests are all done in the 2nd week of May and schools are told which tests to do on which day so that it is uniform across the country.

I hope this helps!

[Fuschia]

James Barber Wrote:

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> From April they'll be extra money to support kids

> from the poorest back grounds and their cohort to

> ensure those deprived backgrounds don't get in the

> way of all our school kids acheiving more. ?5M in

> total for Southwark primary schools via those

> Pupil Premiums.

Which hopefully will go some way to negate the effects of the swingeing cuts on LEA/education spending

[Fuschia]

James Barber Wrote:

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> Hi Queenie,

> You're correct in sense schools budget in cash

> terms will receive no cuts and stay the same -

> which with inflation implies a real terms cut BUT

> 90%+ of school budget is salaries and public

> sector pay freeze (as many private companies had

> had in place for some time). So in absolute real

> terms that near as dammit means no cut.

You forget about the effects of incremental drift, and the effect of various grants being "mainstreamed"

Whatever spin is put on it, the outcome for schools spending is bad news in many many areas, James, even though it will be some time before the overall effect is totally clear.