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Seabag Wrote:

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> > > Haven't we all made mistakes?

> > > I don't mean murder, but as we get older and

> > > worldlier don't we all realise we treated

> > people

> > > badly/misinterpreted others actions?

> > > I would not make the mistakes again-but I am

> > > guilty - the list is long...

> >

> > The sentiment is admirable. But who have you

> > installed in the tribunal of your own reason to

> > find yourself guilty? Did you think that this

> > phantasm was of your own devising?

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> You're single, right?


Why the snide attack on the person..?

Lordship 516 Wrote:

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> > > > Haven't we all made mistakes?

> > > > I don't mean murder, but as we get older

> and

> > > > worldlier don't we all realise we treated

> > > people

> > > > badly/misinterpreted others actions?

> > > > I would not make the mistakes again-but I

> am

> > > > guilty - the list is long...

> > >

> > > The sentiment is admirable. But who have you

> > > installed in the tribunal of your own reason

> to

> > > find yourself guilty? Did you think that this

> > > phantasm was of your own devising?

> >

> > You're single, right?

>

> Why the snide attack on the person..?


I don't wish, and I'm sure s/he wouldn't wish me to, speak for Seabag, but I took it that s/he was making a rather amusing joke that if you've got a partner you've got someone to make you feel guilty, no need to devise your own guilt - pretty sure s/he wasn't making a personal attack.

Lordship 516 Wrote:

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> I got the notion of it being a joke but it was a

> pointed barb ...lacked any humour for me....


Sorry, can't see it - just a joke about the nature of being in a couple as far as I was concerned.

rendelharris Wrote:

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> > I got the notion of it being a joke but it was

> a

> > pointed barb ...lacked any humour for me....

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> Sorry, can't see it - just a joke about the nature

> of being in a couple as far as I was concerned.


Well done RH, maximum points to you.


0 points to Lordship.

maxxi Wrote:

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> I can see it (the joke I mean not the thing about

> it not being a joke) and thought it was funny -

> and believe "who have you installed in the

> tribunal of your own reason" is the basis for a

> perfect dinner party game slash R4 panel show.


Hosted by Nicholas Parsons ?

I thought Otta's OP was quite a serious one.


How does one approach it?


Presumably, we all bring to bear what resources we can.


No doubt I should try harder to make my points clearer. You have said before that the kind of language I used above is pretentious and vacuous (and this is certainly always a danger). But, for me, the OP raises a question that is both important and very difficult to get at. You can say my points make no sense, but I'm not sure that this is true (mainly because I have no new ideas and have to plunder them from elsewhere even if I do try to put them in my own words).


I use ordinary and direct language when I'm posting about car parking, pheasants or pavements: not sure that will get us very far with the OP.


But you are probably right, the tribunal of the EDF forum is a good place to come face to face with one's own pretentiousness: and at this time of year gardening suddenly looks more interesting.

maxxi Wrote:

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> I can see it (the joke I mean not the thing about

> it not being a joke) and thought it was funny -

> and believe "who have you installed in the

> tribunal of your own reason" is the basis for a

> perfect dinner party game slash R4 panel show.


glad you have such a great sense of humour maxxi.


why is the quotation the basis for a perfect dinner party game?


do we judge ourselves autonomously? my point was that we do not.


the phrase 'tribunal of reason' is, I admit, derivative: but I guess you just think its a joke.

Seabag Wrote:

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> > ...always happy to receive 0 points from you.

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> You say 'happy' but do I detect a little bit of

> 'prickly' Mr 516?

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> Ok I'll give you a +1, is that better ?


...nope...when I say I'm happy, then I mean happy..

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