felt-tip Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I'd go all Gok on their ass.I'm not sure that would be exactly what they were after.LM - good response. I didn't mean what I said. Just throwing around some O level psychology. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-387699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggirl Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 OK point taken but what would you say/do? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-387725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted November 30, 2010 Author Share Posted November 30, 2010 felt-tip Wrote-----------------------------------------------------> I didn't mean what I said.> Just throwing around some O level psychology.It's gracious of you to admit this - thank you.But now, of course, I simply have to ask. What was it that propelled you into making the admission? It wouldn't, by any chance, have been your conscience? :)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-387750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickensman Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 In Arms and the Man by George Bernard Shaw the soldier said to the lady I am quite a straight forward sort of chap but a half a dozen lies wouldn't last me through a day.I consider myself to be honest and straight forward to the point where some one said of me " you've gotta watch this guy he has a brutally honest tongue".Yes I have, and I try constantly to rein in from sticking my sharp brutal tongue to someone of a sensitive nature.If I am with the lads I have a wicked sense of humour which sometimes falls flat and is interpreted as cutting but they are capable of dealing with it more so than my lady friends who see the softer gentler flirty playful side of me, I hope. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-387762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 No, honesty is not a thing to be liberally tossed around on principle.Trustworthy is a much better goal. That way you can avoid calling fat people fat until they're in the right mood. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-387818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 sometimes what one person considers to be the truth might just be that person's opinion. My truth may be different from your truth. Truth isn't black and white; sometimes it's off-white.Honesty is usually the best policy but not always.Agree with GG.Also, it is generally wise to just think before you open your mouth. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-387873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveR Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Where you have a responsibility or a duty to be honest, you must be. However, there are many situations where you don't and even where the expectation is that you won't necessarily be completely honest.Q: "How are you?"SAMPLE HONEST ANSWER "I'm really down, and not sure about the direction my life is taking. I'm not sure about my relationship, I think I have unresolved feelings of guilt from the death of my dog. I also have a persistent pain in my left knee which never seems to go away completely - I even had a dream that my leg fell off."APPROPRIATE/EXPECTED ANSWER: "Oh, fine really, mustn't grumble, you know...."This applies to the vast majority of questions that people ask you about (a) you and (b) them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-387924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
katie1997 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Q. Are rice cookers really worth it? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-388280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 Now Katiedigits, would you like an honest, an appropriate, or an expected answer? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-388281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 DaveR Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Q: "How are you?"> > SAMPLE HONEST ANSWER "I'm really down, and not> sure about the direction my life is taking. I'm> not sure about my relationship...> > APPROPRIATE/EXPECTED ANSWER: "Oh, fine really,> mustn't grumble, you know...."I know this happens a great deal, but why feign interest in someone's well being when in truth you couldn't give a toss? Seems a waste of breath to me. Why not instead ask them something that actually interests you? In countries like Holland, Spain, and Portugal - for example - my experience of someone enquiring "how are you" is that they genuinely wish to know how you are. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-388282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizenED Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 DaveR you are completely right about that scenario - but the question "How are you?" is often simply an extention of "Good morning." It's the addition to the initial greeting, a way of extending verbal niceties. Unless someone sits you down with a cup of tea and asks genuinely after you, I'd usually just take it that way and not feel dishonest you respond with a happy platitude. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-388303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Ladym :))So what do you do when you meet people, just stare at them and say "require input"? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-388342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Some have suggested that ImpetuousVrouw has been a bit too honest on occasion ;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-388399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 Huguenot Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> So what do you do when you meet people, just stare> at them and say "require input"?You'll find out soon enough! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-388402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 "Ladym So what do you do when you meet people, just stare at them and say "require input"?"funnily enough that's not far off what happened first time I met her! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-388403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 You're just sore because I told you that looked like a hedgehog LOL! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-388404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveR Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 "DaveR you are completely right about that scenario - but the question "How are you?" is often simply an extention of "Good morning." It's the addition to the initial greeting, a way of extending verbal niceties. Unless someone sits you down with a cup of tea and asks genuinely after you, I'd usually just take it that way and not feel dishonest you respond with a happy platitude."I agree, but I would also say that very often people do not want to hear the unvarnished truth even when it might appear that they do, and most people are aware of this (consciously or otherwise).Q: Tell me the truth, do you really like my fiancee?Honest answer: I hate him, we all do, and we suspect that if he's not already cheating on you it's only a matter of time.Appropriate answer: Not the aboveThis might be a bit more controversial, but I am firmly of the opinion that there is no benefit or honour in telling the truth in that scenario - sometimes people have to find out the truth for themselves (or not - maybe we're all wrong).I should add that I have been accused of being quite frank (which I understand perfectly well means rude and/or tactless) but I have learned to be less so. On the upside, people have learned not to come to me for advice/reassurance on sensitive topics, which is a relief. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-388446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I hate asking the standard 'how are you ?' because often you get the stock answer 'not bad' !An equally dishonest answer in most cases I bet. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-388528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
felt-tip Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 When I see friends and colleagues I usually just casually drop a shoulder, raise a non-threatening fist and utter 'word'. It doesn't invite a response and looks cool as mustard. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-388537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 pure class felt-tip ! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-388543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyruskin Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 My Dad was once denied a promotion because he was deemed as being 'too honest'. The again, he was working in Local Government at the time... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-388635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
katie1997 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 So how is everyone on the forum today? :)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-389566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karter Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 the snow is melting, honest. And how are you today? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-389568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
katie1997 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 karter Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> the snow is melting, honest. And how are you> today?*rifles through brain for stock answers*Not bad/Fine, thanks/Just great/My old horse-riding injury is playing up/Toothache's gone/Not suitable for forum answers*thinks*this'll do ..."Not bad", thanks :)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-389574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 Pissing myself. Honestly!!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14568-can-a-person-be-too-honest/page/2/#findComment-389585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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