Ridgley Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 My Daughters school City of London sent them home today Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-388524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Eee - you were lucky. Grey Coat Hospital make no such concessions. Daughter been walking to and fro. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-388812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minder Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 The Charter closed again tomorrow! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-388918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suniil Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 St. Anthony's - Open today Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-389003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I don't understand what responsibility a school has for the Health and Safety of children outside of school hours (i.e. on their way to school). Surely it is the responsibility of the child's parents to ensure that they get to school safely. The shcool's responsibility is to remain open for those who can make it in and ensure that they are safe whilst under their care. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-389004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clare Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Goodrich open today.Charter closed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-389007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie M Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Heber open today 9.30 - 2.00pm. Parent text message on the way. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-389008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vik Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 DKH open... something to do with the Christmas Fair I'm guessing! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-389009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec John Moore Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Kingsdale open. Any info on 363? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-389027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmck83 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 rahrahrah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I don't understand what responsibility a school> has for the Health and Safety of children outside> of school hours (i.e. on their way to school).> Surely it is the responsibility of the child's> parents to ensure that they get to school safely.> The shcool's responsibility is to remain open for> those who can make it in and ensure that they are> safe whilst under their care.As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the main reason schools can't open is that most teachers tend to live miles and miles away from their schools nowadays, and if loads can't get to work, there won't be a high enough staff to student ratio. That is probably why some schools around here are open, and some are shut. It depends where the staff are coming from. If any are coming from beyond Sydenham they are probably stuck. It's not just teachers, my lighting technician friend who lives in Orpington is snowed in and my graphic designer boyfriend is working from home in Lee, as it was too hard to get to his studio in Shoreditch.I'm off because the roads around my school are closed to all traffic (hills and ice are a bad combo), the trains are off, and according to Facebook, most of my friends who live further out seem to be completely snowed in. There is no way my school could stay open! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-389122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Travelling into central london, fair enough, it's difficult if you can't drive and public transport is down. But zone 2? Really? Most people drive, the main roads were (on the whole), fine. I understand that some people won't be able to make it in, but surely the majority should be able to.. enough to keep the organisation running (there should be contingency plans in place for some unexpected absence). It does seem that the schools shut down sooner than any other organisation. Snow in December isn't that unexpected. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-389615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophiesofa Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I'm currently on a placement at a secondary school in Kidbrooke and although I got in, a lot of staff from Kent, brighton or other places didn't make it in. As a result on the Wednesday quite a few classes ended up being merged so in effect the lessons didn't happen, they just played games and complained about not being allowed out in the snow. The school was closed on thurs and fri which to me made sense because the students would again just turn up and not be taught anything. I'm sure I read somewhere that there's an idea of getting teachers/staff to go and help out at their nearest school when it snows. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-389627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
espelli Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Sophiesofa, you are right, there is an old, old agreement that teachers are expected to report to their local school if they can't get to their own school. In reality I have never known this happen, partly because it has reached the status of urban myth and partly due to the number of safeguarding checks that would need to be done would make it a bureaucratic nightmare. I also made it from here to my school in another borough without too much hassle, but a number of our staff were coming in from Kent and found it too difficult. In fact I would say that travelling into central London from here was probably easier than from further out to zone 2.Schools are in a difficult position in snowy weather. They need to have certain staffing levels to function safely, they need to have the ability for pupils to move around the site safely, and they have a duty of care to their staff and pupils. There are contingency plans made for staff absences but one day we had five class teachers out, that meant 150 children with no-one to teach them - there are not enough spare teachers in any school to cope with that! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-389630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmck83 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 rahrahrah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Travelling into central london, fair enough, it's> difficult if you can't drive and public transport> is down. But zone 2? Really? Most people drive,> the main roads were (on the whole), fine. I> understand that some people won't be able to make> it in, but surely the majority should be able to..> enough to keep the organisation running (there> should be contingency plans in place for some> unexpected absence). It does seem that the schools> shut down sooner than any other organisation. Snow> in December isn't that unexpected.As I said, just because the school is in zone 2 doesn't mean the staff live in zone 2. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-389815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellenden Jo Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 St John's and St Clement's is shut today due to broken boiler! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-389903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmck83 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Bellenden Jo Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> St John's and St Clement's is shut today due to> broken boiler!Something similar nearly happened in my school today, but they managed to fix it. There was no water! Must have frozen... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-390139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfox Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 Bellenden Jo Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> St John's and St Clement's is shut today due to> broken boiler!Pathetic excuse. Fan heaters @ ?25 each x 3 per class x 10 class rooms equals ?750 with probably two years usage. Parents having to take time off work with 35 minutes notice, or paying child minders extra equals billions of pounds of disruption over the country and difficult to justify and keep your job. Time teachers got real. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-390190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Fan heaters only ?11 in Lidl. Nowt wrong with a vest and a jumper. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-390198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam50 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Teachers are very real and do not make closure decisions. Those are made by managers and governors who have the statutory responsibility for the health and safety of hundreds of children and many adults. So...that's one teacher in one small room, 30 children (including those with behaviour issues),three fan heaters that have not been checked, no hot water in the washrooms or kitchens... not to mention a creaking electricity system coping with the sudden output of 50 odd fan heaters.Real??? :( Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-390458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmck83 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 silverfox Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Bellenden Jo Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > St John's and St Clement's is shut today due to> > broken boiler!> > > Pathetic excuse. Fan heaters @ ?25 each x 3 per> class x 10 class rooms equals ?750 with probably> two years usage. Parents having to take time off> work with 35 minutes notice, or paying child> minders extra equals billions of pounds of> disruption over the country and difficult to> justify and keep your job. Time teachers got real.How are they meant to get that many heaters at 35 mins notice? What school has ?750 quid to spend that quickly?What school only has 10 classrooms?! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-390481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmck83 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 "...not to mention a creaking electricity system coping with the sudden output of 50 odd fan heaters. Real??? :( "Can you imagine?! They'd have a load of blown fuses as well as a wonky boiler to fix if that happened! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-390482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
womanofdulwich Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Well, in the commercial world, our office heating broke down last year and we bought back up fan and halogen heaters ( we already had some). The heating broke down 9 days ago, and the fan and halogen heaters have all been in use until this afternoon. This is called management and that is what business' do to protect themselves if they should arise. This is what headteachers and governors are for. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-390484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfox Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 Headteachers earning circa ?100k can put their hand in their pocket and claim it back on expenses - job done. If you're worried the electricity can't handle it buy calor gas heaters. It's called planning ahead in the real world. cmck83 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> silverfox Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Bellenden Jo Wrote:> >> --------------------------------------------------> > > -----> > > St John's and St Clement's is shut today due> to> > > broken boiler!> > > > > > Pathetic excuse. Fan heaters @ ?25 each x 3 per> > class x 10 class rooms equals ?750 with> probably> > two years usage. Parents having to take time> off> > work with 35 minutes notice, or paying child> > minders extra equals billions of pounds of> > disruption over the country and difficult to> > justify and keep your job. Time teachers got> real.> > How are they meant to get that many heaters at 35> mins notice? What school has ?750 quid to spend> that quickly?> What school only has 10 classrooms?! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-390504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam50 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Considering the possible outcome of thirty very active and very young children + one adult + calor gas heaters; the alternative of having my child at home for a day is ok! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-390517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfox Posted December 8, 2010 Author Share Posted December 8, 2010 True Pam50, they might try to light their cigarettes and joints from it and then the teacher will sue claiming some imagined passive smoking ailment. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14566-school-closures-fastest-off-the-mark/page/3/#findComment-390520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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