Large police and ambulance incident at the plough

[uncleglen]

I didn't say 'knife' alice, I said weapon- and I don't 'think' it- I know it to be true as I am a teacher....

[lbsmith73]

Get a grip, when are people going to stop blaming schools for all the problems in society. The buck stops with parents if more of them took their responsibility seriously then tragic cases like this would not happen as frequently as they do.

[JohnL]

lbsmith73 Wrote:

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> Get a grip, when are people going to stop blaming

> schools for all the problems in society. The buck

> stops with parents if more of them took their

> responsibility seriously then tragic cases like

> this would not happen as frequently as they do.

But schools still do 'morality' type classes (you know

where you role play victim and bully etc.)

It used to be RE with us (as RE was compulsory but we

did the God bit in 3 weeks)

[Angelina]

No one is blaming schools at all. To be honest, the sheer denial of the problem shown above is actually shocking.

[bawdy-nan]

When the most recent stats on knife crime in London came out Scotland Yard representatives were interviewed:

"Duncan Ball said: ?This is not an issue we will ever arrest or enforce our way out of,? adding that police, schools, parents and communities would need to tackle the underlying causes of what Ball described as young people seeing life as cheap on Britain?s street."

So, who is to blame? The police identify themselves, schools, parents and, er, communities.

What was also interesting in the article is this:

"Police estimate there are fewer than 300 who carry a knife on a regular basis in London and Haydon said police would be helped by a new law introduced this summer which jails those caught carrying a knife twice."

So, the police reckon on around 300 people "regularly" carrying knives. Even allowing for the fact that some people carry knives on an adhoc basis, or indeed resort to the mysterious "other weapons" asserted by a previous poster, this is a tiny percentage of the current London secondary school population of 488,160 pupils.

I don't underestimate the impact of knife crime on young people and I do agree that there are far too many deaths and injuries and that this is absolutely unacceptable.

But demonising young people and asserting such arrant nonsense about most of them carrying weapons is wrong.

I'm very sorry that the teacher who has posted about this feels so upset by their work (which, one hopes at least, isn't teaching Maths or any kind of subject that deals with statistics).

[Angelina]

I am not demonising our children at all. Far from it.

I think most children are not aware of the dangers or not actually aware of the value of life. Neither am I saying they are ignorant - just a different context to their lives, as they are so young.

I think bringing the subject to the front of discussion is a good thing, which I don't think happens enough. There are a number of things communities suffer and don't talk about enough.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

uncleglen Wrote:

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> They all think that everyone else

> has got one so they need to have one. This is, to

> some extent, true.

It's 100% true some of the time?

[alice]

and you report all these weapon holding schoolkids to the head? which school is that??! ive not heard of any mass exclusions