adonirum Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Fascinating item on BBC local news a few minutes ago (not strictly ED) about Rye Lane and Khans Bargains shop having uncovered a vaulted art-deco style ceiling during renovations. Apparently the building used to be a department store called Holdrons back in the 40's/50's. Can't say I ever remember my parents or grandparents mentioning the store. Jones & Higgins, yes, further down (I remember it myself) but never Holdrons. The news item also stated that Rye Lane used to be known as "the Oxford Street of south London" !! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules-and-Boo Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 yes I heard it being comparable to Oxford St. (which was a bit more upmarket than it is now, although it's hard to imagine.Khan's is a bit of an Aladdin's cave and has pretty much everything! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1096896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicki08 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I don't remember it being called that either, I remember it being called the golden mile. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1096908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 You can see the ceiling at Khans, just walk down the back and look up ! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1096920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Rye Lane in the 50's Jones & Higgins. Walworths. British Home Stores. C&A's two of them. Marks and Spencers. Littlewoods. Boots the Chemist. Peacry's Lyons Tea Houses.. Two of them. (who remembers the Nippies) Shoe shops. Stead and Simpsons. Lillian Skinner. Dulces. Saxon. Timsons. Bata. Many more shops I cannot recall at the mo. Rye Lane was like the West End. Even in my time. DulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1096924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendelharris Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Blimey that's a lot of shoe shops! Did people have more feet in the olden days? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1096943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I toc can remember Rye Lane before it was left to rack and ruin after the channel tunnel re-route and collapse in property prices. Holdrons closed down in 1948 so is it any surprise most of us can't remember it? Jones & Higgins was around until much later, possibly mid-80's? Rye Lane was most famous for tailors when I was a child, the lane had so many of them it was hard to keep track. I also remember the record shops and the old fashioned J Sainsbury counter service shop (now occupied by Clarks shoes).Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1096956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
intexasatthe moment Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Some pics here https://www.architecture.com/image-library/RIBApix/gallery-product/poster/holdrons-department-store-and-arcade-rye-lane-peckham-london-the-glass-concrete-roof/posterid/RIBA24510.htmlhttps://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2014/02/07/art-in-peckhams-old-holdrons-department-store/ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1096967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeknomyeknom Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 The arcade beside is it called Holdrons Arcade. Check out the amazing pancake cafe at the far end of it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1096995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Louisa Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I toc can remember Rye Lane before it was left to> rack and ruin after the channel tunnel re-route> and collapse in property prices. > > Holdrons closed down in 1948 so is it any surprise> most of us can't remember it? Jones & Higgins was> around until much later, possibly mid-80's? > > Rye Lane was most famous for tailors when I was a> child, the lane had so many of them it was hard to> keep track. I also remember the record shops and> the old fashioned J Sainsbury counter service shop> (now occupied by Clarks shoes).> > Louisa.The parking restrictions also had a big effect (see also Walworth Road) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flocker spotter Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Can't wait to go down to Khan's and see the art deco ceiling. Well done Mr Khan for investing in the restoration of your buildings superb 20thC features. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennys Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 DulwichFox Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Rye Lane in the 50's> > Jones & Higgins.> Walworths.> British Home Stores.> C&A's two of them.> Marks and Spencers.> Littlewoods.> Boots the Chemist.> Peacry's> > Lyons Tea Houses.. Two of them. (who remembers> the Nippies)> > https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ab/2f/3> a/ab2f3a2ca7a3507fbe38ebb50facbe2e.jpg> > Shoe shops.> > Stead and Simpsons.> Lillian Skinner.> Dulces.> Saxon.> Timsons.> Bata.> > Many more shops I cannot recall at the mo.> > Rye Lane was like the West End. Even in my time.> > DulwichFoxLilley and Skinners I think Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Arh yes... Lilley and Skinners :) Foxy. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apples Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I believe Holdron's was further up, I reckon where Primark is now. The 'RONS' chimney in the industrial park is the only thing left (I think). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 apples Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I believe Holdron's was further up, I reckon where> Primark is now. The 'RONS' chimney in the> industrial park is the only thing left (I think).No, what was Holdrons is now part of Khans Bargains, before the railway bridge. The Bet Fred and Bargain furniture store on the corner of Bournemouth Road can clearly been seen in the picture you've just provided! Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Jennys Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> DulwichFox Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Rye Lane in the 50's> > > > Jones & Higgins.> > Walworths.> > British Home Stores.> > C&A's two of them.> > Marks and Spencers.> > Littlewoods.> > Boots the Chemist.> > Peacry's> > > > Lyons Tea Houses.. Two of them. (who remembers> > the Nippies)> > > > > https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ab/2f/3> > a/ab2f3a2ca7a3507fbe38ebb50facbe2e.jpg> > > > Shoe shops.> > > > Stead and Simpsons.> > Lillian Skinner.> > Dulces.> > Saxon.> > Timsons.> > Bata.> > > > Many more shops I cannot recall at the mo.> > > > Rye Lane was like the West End. Even in my> time.> > > > DulwichFox> > Lilley and Skinners I thinkAnd Dolcis, Saxone, Timpsons, Woolworth.I'm as old as you, Foxy :)I remember buying quite reasonable shoes for 39/11 (ie about ?2) :))Oh and I remember Lyons Corner Shops, as well :)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passiflora Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Where is Khans bargains please? C&A were still there until the early 90s on two big floors where the row of shops before Santander is now and I remember Boots, Saxone, Lilley & Skinner, Dolcis, Boots (somewhere near where Argos is now I think) and Louisa you've just jogged a memory of me and my dear Mum visiting the Sainsburys counter where Clarks shoe shop is now. Remember the record shop.DulwichFox, I can't remember the name of a shop that was up near the Post Office on rye lane. They had a branch in Walworth Road too that were handy for lots of things like towels, curtains, net curtains. They had a yellow coloured sign. Was that Peacrys?BHS was where Primark is now. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Passiflora, the shop near the post office selling curtains and towels I remember was called Pollards? Is that the name you were looking for? Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passiflora Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Ahh yes thanks, Pollards! Wish they were still around. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonirum Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Great post, intexasatthemoment.DF, I think there was also a shoe shop called Ravels back in the 70's.(even 80's?).Louisa, the record shop was a branch (or at least associated with) Folletts in L.L. near Goose Green. The "old fashioned J. Sainsbury's counter service shop", was that called David Greig's, like the one on L.L.? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSJ57 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 My mum remembers Holdrons, she said it was definitely 'Selfridges of the south'. Also Ghinns, the wool and fabric shop, opposite where Marks and Spencer was. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vik Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I've seen many pics of Holdrens.I'm only old enough to remember 80's Rye Lane but the shops I recall are:WHSmithZodiacs toy shop (my fave!)BHSWoolworthsM&SC&ABroomfields bakersThe huge toy stall in the indooor marketTerry's All Gold (where I got my ears pierced)RavelsStead & SimpsonClarksSainsburys (The newer one where the cinema is nowCurrys DixonTHE LEBSafeway Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sally buying Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Burtons the TailorsHepworth the tailorsKennedysDunns Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuff Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Grants Shoes, could never afford them! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Bloomin' degentrification. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/139854-local-news-bbc/#findComment-1097220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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