Ladymuck Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 dita-on-tees Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> ah well least you haven't had 100 driving lessons> plus, and still no bloody license...Sorry sweetie...I just CANNOT resist this...but I think it's licence! Please forgive me...the temptation is TOO great. You know I love you really!:)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dita-on-tees Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Regardless... its probably gardens. I believe he has more than one. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
huncamunca Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 http://images.landofnod.com/is/image/LandOfNod/0108353_SportsPennants_06F1?$FP$ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 PS: I may not have had 100 driving lessons, but hubby did end up with bruising to his right arm and a ripped thumb fingernail when teaching me!:-$ And I still cannot park in small spaces...actually...I can't park in massive spaces either! Much prefer bikes! Keep at it sweetie...you'll be bloomin brilliant when you do pass. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 Hmmmm...I remain none the wiser on Charlie's Garden(s) :-SSomeone must know this. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dita-on-tees Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Ladymuck Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> dita-on-tees Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > > ah well least you haven't had 100 driving> lessons> > plus, and still no bloody license...> > ha ha ha ha I am such a moron! (oh and the "regardless" was a crossed posted not a dismissal!)> Sorry sweetie...I just CANNOT resist this...but I> think it's licence! Please forgive me...the> temptation is TOO great. You know I love you> really!:)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 I just CANNOT resist this...but I think it's licence!Err license is how Americans English spells it. Licence is Queen's English. Both spellings are therefore correct. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 100 driving lessons Dita? What did you find so impossibly hard to get your head around in a car? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 No you're not...far from it (and I mean that)...I was just being an irritating pedant...(but it was meant in good humour - honest xxx)And still no-one has come back with an answer to my great dilemma. Maybe the forum's pedants aren't so clever after all - when put to the test? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 dita-on-tees Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Ladymuck Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > > > Well Dita, I failed my English Language O Level> > four times before I eventually passed. In fact> I> > obtained all of my qualifications (bar French O> > Level) whilst attending evening classes/working> > full time:-$ as I left school at 16. Still as> > thick as 3 planks:-S.> > > ah well least you haven't had 100 driving lessons> plus, and still no bloody license...Licence - noun British EnglishLicense - noun US EnglishLicense - verb British English Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 DJKillaQueen Wrote:------------------------------------------------------- > Err license is how Americans English spells it.> Licence is Queen's English. Both spellings are> therefore correct.I thought L with an "s" referred to the verb whilst L with a "c" referred to the noun. No? Have I been using incorrect spelling all this time?:-S*scratches pea-brain* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Louisiana explains it better above. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dita-on-tees Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Roundabouts. Get me everytime. I am a great parker, 3 point turner etc. drive me to a roundabout and I lose it completely.License/licence/lysense I haven't got one no matter how I spell it. Boooooo. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 Yes, but what about Charlie and his garden(s)? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashoi Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 I'm sure I was taught that if a word ended in an s, which was preceded by a vowel, then there was no second s. Then I came to London and saw St James's everywhere. Strictly speaking they can both be correct though can't they? The apostrophe is either replacing the e of the possessive es of old english or both the e and the s. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 dita-on-tees Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I am a great> parker...What I would give to be able to park a car in less than 6 manoeuvres (now there's a word - always have to think about that one). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 nashoi Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------The apostrophe> is either replacing the e of the possessive es of> old english or both the e and the s.*pea-brain goes into melt-down* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Ladymuck Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Actually, whilst on the subject of grammar could I> pick the brains of some of you.> > I have a problem with apostrophes in this> situation:> > Prince Charles' garden.> > Is that correct? Or should there be a second "s"?> I.e. Prince Charles's garden. The internet is> split on this. I always feel there should be a> second "s", but think it looks odd and therefore> tend to omit it.> Prince Charles' garden is always correct.Some publications - such as The Currant Bun - may, however, regard this form as affected and unnecessarily challenging for their readers. You'll find out more in the style guide, if the publication has one; this will invariably include instructions on dealing with proper nouns. Essentially it has become a matter of house style.The main issue is consistency. You should not use one form in the body and the other in the headline, as I have just spotted in one publication, or both forms in the same publication. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
computedshorty Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Using Cockney Rhyming SlangSome publications - such as The Currant Bun "SUN"Many examples are based on places in London and could be meaningless to people unfamiliar with the capital, e.g. "Peckham Rye", meaning "Tie" (as in necktie), which dates from the late 19th century; Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 louisiana Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Prince Charles' garden is always correct.You have no idea just how relieved I am to hear that!> Some publications - such as The Currant Bun - may,> however, regard this form as affected and> unnecessarily challenging for their readers.> You'll find out more in the style guide, if the> publication has one; this will invariably include> instructions on dealing with proper noun> possessives. Essentially it has become a matter of> house style.> > The main issue is consistency. You should not use> one form in the body and the other in the> headline, as I have just spotted in one> publication, or both forms in the same> publication.Thanks Louisiana. So what about Nashoi's mention of St. James's Park then? Is that, by implication, incorrect? Or is it permissible albeit a bit odd? Moreover, would you utilise the extra "s"? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 My rule is to use what people themselves want to be called, unless this is overruled by the house style (but I would fight a house style that sought to deviate from accepted forms).The Royal Parks themselves use the form St James's Park, so I would too. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 Interesting.So, to summarise:it is always correct to write Prince Charles' Garden(s) unless Charlie himself (or his staff) refer/s to his garden(s) as Prince Charles's. Even I can understand that! You've made my day Louisiana. Thank you so much.Now, back to pedants on the EDF...funny how they've kept away from this thread - well, apart from the incorrigible Narnia!:)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narnia Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Licence - noun British English License - noun US English License - verb British EnglishJust drive the feckin ting - instructions Irish anti pedant Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofmarkthedog Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Cate is my favorite pedant on the forumShe makes me laugh & give in, just for a quite life reallyW**F Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peckhamboy Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Surely you mean quiet? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13917-pedants-on-the-edf/page/2/#findComment-374910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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