Sue Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 rahrahrah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> There are plenty of examples. Frozen cheese and> ham sandwichs are just one, doner kebab pizzas> another (?1 at Iceland). You won't find these in> Sainsburys (for example). Take a walk around> Iceland and look at the type of cheap, highly> processed convenience foods they specialise in.> Yes, in my opinion they are one of the worst> offenders when it comes to peddling this type of> junk.> xxxxxxSome people can't afford anything else.Schools, apparently, also no longer have cooking lessons.If you don't have much money and you don't know how to cook, what are you supposed to do? Starve? Sit outside an M&S or a Waitrose and hope somebody with (a lot) more money than you takes pity on you and throws you a few expensive, non-processed, highly nutritious scraps from their brimming trolley? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Dont worry the Liberal Demonuts will be gone next election. Nobody voting for them will trust them not to let tories in. They have done it once in Southwark and then Nationally. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 sallyw Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Can we start a campaign to close Iceland and turn> it into m& s simply food or waitrose. It's> ruins look of lordship lane too cheap and ugly. > Does not fit in with other nice shops and when I> walk down north cross rd I just want it gone it's> yukCan I join your campaign. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 It?s not cheap to buy frozen cheese and ham sandwiches, or to snack on frozen Yorkshire pudding wraps. As for Doner Kebab pizzas ? yes, they?re cheap, but no one should be eating this stuff. Let?s be clear, Iceland is no working class hero. You can live far more cheaply buying fresh produce and making hearty filling food. I know that not everyone has the know how to do this, but places like Iceland remove any impetuous to learn such essential life skills by offering a false alternative (empty calories and potential long term health problems). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
granadaland Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Sue Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> > If you don't have much money and you don't know> how to cook, what are you supposed to do? Starve?err, learn how to cook?or are all Iceland customers incapable? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjtango Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 rahrahrah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> It?s not cheap to buy frozen cheese and ham> sandwiches, or to snack on frozen Yorkshire> pudding wraps. As for Doner Kebab pizzas ? yes,> they?re cheap, but no one should be eating this> stuff. Let?s be clear, Iceland is no working class> hero. You can live far more cheaply buying fresh> produce and making hearty filling food. I know> that not everyone has the know how to do this, but> places like Iceland remove any impetuous to learn> such essential life skills by offering a false> alternative (empty calories and potential long> term health problems).Hear hear. Bring on the M&S. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrure Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 No matter how small a budget you have (and mine is small), it is possible to eat healthily and from scratch by buying carefully. I wouldn't buy from Iceland if I was paid to do it due to the inferior quality of products. However, except for the odd treat (and I prefer Waitrose) I wouldn't use M&S either - too expensive. Not all who live in East Dulwich and environs are upmarket! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevone64 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 i agree its not all bad has some quite good stuff for the average jo.... unless u are used to shopping at fortnum and masons ... if so....lucky u!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uplandsneighbour Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Some Iceland food is not good for you but no need ot give it a special pummelling for that. A lot of M&S food is also not good for you. The people who want M&S on LL want ready meals and convenience food. All ready meals - even M&S ready meals - are full of salt and other bad stuff. Buying from M&S doesn't mean that you are buying healthy food. Their milk might be got from happier cows but I fear that M&S doughnuts are as bad for you as Iceland doughnuts. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 uplandsneighbour Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> > Buying from M&S doesn't mean that you are buying> healthy food. Their milk might be got from> happier cows but I fear that M&S doughnuts are as> bad for you as Iceland doughnuts.The welfare/health angle is not all one way. Iceland were the first supermarket chain to ban genetically modified foods - and to remove chemical colourants from its fresh egg range. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gidget Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 mrure Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> No matter how small a budget you have (and mine is> small), it is possible to eat healthily and from> scratch by buying carefully. I wouldn't buy from> Iceland if I was paid to do it due to the inferior> quality of products. However, except for the odd> treat (and I prefer Waitrose) I wouldn't use M&S> either - too expensive. Not all who live in East> Dulwich and environs are upmarket!Are their frozen vegetables and fish inferior? Their crumpets? Inferior to what exactly? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undisputedtruth Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 trevone64 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> i agree its not all bad has some quite good stuff> for the average jo.... unless u are used to> shopping at fortnum and masons ... if so....lucky> u!!Don't knock fortnum and masons as some of their food were actually cheaper than Morrisons! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
puwetter Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 think about the people who cant afford your M&S store Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 puwetter Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> think about the people who cant afford your M&S storeIceland do home delivery. And there are plenty of other options - there are other Iceland stores nearby, as well as Asda and Lidl. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Gidget Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> mrure Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > No matter how small a budget you have (and mine> is> > small), it is possible to eat healthily and> from> > scratch by buying carefully. I wouldn't buy> from> > Iceland if I was paid to do it due to the> inferior> > quality of products. However, except for the> odd> > treat (and I prefer Waitrose) I wouldn't use> M&S> > either - too expensive. Not all who live in> East> > Dulwich and environs are upmarket!> > Are their frozen vegetables and fish inferior? > Their crumpets? Inferior to what exactly?xxxxxxxExactly. I notice no difference between Iceland's frozen fish and vegetables and that from anywhere else.Except in the price. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gidget Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 There isn't an Asda or Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> puwetter Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > think about the people who cant afford your M&S> store> > Iceland do home delivery. And there are plenty of> other options - there are other Iceland stores> nearby, as well as Asda and Lidl.There is an Iceland in Peckham. If you don't have a car that is a long way to walk. Also nearly impossible to park there if you do have one. No Asda near here. Lidl also in Peckham. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 There is an Asda on Rye Lane, and another on Old Kent Road. But my main point was that Iceland do home delivery, so you can still get your frozen fish and veg (or indeed your chicken tikka lasagne or doner kebab pizza). Of course I realise that alternative locations or home delivery may not suit some people as well as the local store, but it's hardly the end of the world. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 M&S Do home delivery. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gidget Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> There is an Asda on Rye Lane, and another on Old> Kent Road. > > But my main point was that Iceland do home> delivery, so you can still get your frozen fish> and veg (or indeed your chicken tikka lasagne or> doner kebab pizza). Of course I realise that> alternative locations or home delivery may not> suit some people as well as the local store, but> it's hardly the end of the world.Maybe people like to have a stroll around a shop and look to see what is on offer rather than ordering something for delivery. Iceland have offers that change regularly. I never buy anything like snacks or pizzas, but do like their choice of fish and vegetables, including oven chips. They often have good offers on fresh vegetables as well for example cauliflower priced much lower than Pretty in Northcross. I think the staff is very friendly and helpful in there. They regularly have excellent offers on Wyke Somerset Cheddar, and Somerset butter. What is so special about M&S. I have shopped there in the past, when working in the West End, but am now totally uninspired when I go there. If there was a choice between M&S or Waitrose I would choose Waitrose. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 You misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm not claiming that M&S is anything special. I was simply responding to puwetter's post, "think about the people who cant afford your M&S store" - I proposed a solution. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-544812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkyjunior1 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 a eyesore..........must be wind up post.......eyesore for us is smelly take away containers.broken glass fly tipping that council repeatedly are battling keep cleaned up on road near us.glengarry road.iceland lvoe it dont do all shopping there do online order yes.Asda shame on me NOT!!!!!!!Thats what a disabled east dulwich resident has do with no car....by goodness they good quality to.love aldi love lidl.M s well..........to pricy for me but plenty who would go there.When ive managed go brixton or epckham iceland out stokc items usally always can get at dulwich branch..lets not start about to many tree.s in dulwich. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-545158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrure Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 mrure Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No matter how small a budget you have (and mine is > small), it is possible to eat healthily and from > scratch by buying carefully. I wouldn't buy from > Iceland if I was paid to do it due to the inferior > quality of products. However, except for the odd > treat (and I prefer Waitrose) I wouldn't use M&S > either - too expensive. Not all who live in East > Dulwich and environs are upmarket! Are their frozen vegetables and fish inferior? Their crumpets? Inferior to what exactly?I don't buy frozen, full stop. If you look at many products in Iceland, what they have in them are not so healthy. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-545206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gidget Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 mrure Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> mrure Wrote: > --------------------------------------------------> ----- > > No matter how small a budget you have (and mine> is > > small), it is possible to eat healthily and from> > > scratch by buying carefully. I wouldn't buy from> > > Iceland if I was paid to do it due to the> inferior > > quality of products. However, except for the odd> > > treat (and I prefer Waitrose) I wouldn't use M&S> > > either - too expensive. Not all who live in East> > > Dulwich and environs are upmarket! > > Are their frozen vegetables and fish inferior?> Their crumpets? Inferior to what exactly?> > I don't buy frozen, full stop. If you look at> many products in Iceland, what they have in them> are not so healthy.So if you want peas, or beans what do you do? Frozen vegetables are usually fresher than 'fresh' stuff as it is frozen shortly after picking, same with fish. Fresh peas only have a short window of availability in the summer. Maybe you buy beans flown in from Kenya, or blueberries from Spain. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-545257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrure Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 So if you want peas, or beans what do you do? Frozen vegetables are usually fresher than 'fresh' stuff as it is frozen shortly after picking, same with fish. Fresh peas only have a short window of availability in the summer. Maybe you buy beans flown in from Kenya, or blueberries from Spain.I tend to buy what is seasonal & cheap. I use fresh products up quickly, so nothing is every lying around to go mouldy. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-545654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallyw1 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Yay, my campaign worked. I just got back from my world trip and see that Iceland is gone and M&S is soon to open. So much nicer than iceland. This is also good for our property value :) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32166019 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13822-iceland-eyesore/page/12/#findComment-1023929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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