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I was drove down dog kennel hill, waited at the junction fro the traffic to turn right into sainsbury's. When traffic light for oncoming traffic turned red I turned right. Now, there is a traffic light just when you exit the turning and it was red. I carried on without stopping. I'm sure I should have stopped, however the car in front of me which did the same maneuvre also jumped it, so that's two cars in a row. Is there a camera for this set of lights? I'm beating up myself about it so much.
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So, what you are saying is that you couldn't see a bright red electric light the size of a dinner plate in front of you and you are more concerned about getting ticketed than possibly running someone over? Open your eyes.


It isn't 'little used' if you are a pedestrian waiting to cross the junction - this can take quite a while, maybe it appears so if you are going through in a car which might take a few seconds.

As far as I can tell, the lights only go red if a pedestrian pushes the button to cross - which is why they are often green. I also think they are synced so they can only go red when traffic is turning out of Sainsburys - not when traffic if flowing down DKH (which kind of makes sense given how much faster that traffic is usually). I have no special knowledge so may be totally wrong about this, but just my observation.

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