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Why are all the nice places to eat and drink becoming creches ,, I have kids but we never had time or money to take them to the pub, the parents nowadays treat these places like playschools so please someone ban the children or allow parents that take time to look after the kids to use you public houses some people just want a quiet time
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I find peoples responses to this post very rude. I agree with Mike but it's so hard to say anything about this subject due to responses like this. Yes there are many families in ED that want to always be out and about but personally I think pubs are for adults, or at least adults with teenagers. Parents can't always have it every way.
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Get the law changed to how it used to be then. Until then Children are legally allowed in pubs in the daytime.. and you'll just have to put up with it, in the same way you have to put up with any public space having people you'd rather weren't there. I personally can't stand opiniated twatty 20 somethings for intsance but pubs are chocker with them.
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I hope that wasn't aimed at me ????. If it was more fool you. ll of my friends who have children, Mike said he has children himself, would never dream of taking their young children to pubs because they're children! Gorgeous little bundles of joy but demanding, restless, loud, and sometimes stressful- so pubs just don't seem to be the place for them unless it's specifically aimed at them. I remember going to a pub around Victoria Park when I was younger which was wonderful because it had a huge area built in the back away from the main area with a play pit of balls and a climbing net thingy. It was brilliant.
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It's not about the children it's about the parents. Children are children, parents make choices. It seems to me that what Mike was saying is that he chooses not to take his children to pubs and wishes there were more parents in East Dulwich that saw his point of view. But what do I know ????!
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Thanks Zeeban was starting to think i was the only one ,,What i wanted to say is when i take my kids out if they are noisey or messing about ie crawling or running about i will take them outside so as not trouble other diners .But nowadays they think that they are the only people with kids and dont care if thier kids are upsetting someone who as gone to lunch with with there partner so we can have a bit of time without children..i know i am not alone in my thinking so please think about others all you very busy yummy mummys doing lunch
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"all you very busy yummy mummys doing lunch"


?


All badly behaved children belong to attractive women married to rich men who are too busy chatting to others of their like to discipline their kids?


I think more people would be less rude if you expressed an opinion rather than a prejudice.

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zeban Wrote:

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> Children are children


But why is it that so many children in mainland Europe seem to coexist with adults in places that serve food and alcohol with no difficulty but children in the UK don't? Perhaps because there are different standards of behaviour. I am more than happy to share a restaurant or pub with children as long as they don't scream for their own amusement, run around between tables thereby endangering upsetting the plates the waiting staff are carrying, or throw food on the floor or other customers. It's not much to ask. Books and games to keep them amused and an afternoon nap if they're going out to dinner, and if they're at that impossible age when screaming comes as frequently as breathing then get a sitter.

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Bore bore bore.

If you dont like a pub with kids in it find another one that doesn't. Boho never seems to have kids in it neither does the Adventure bar. I don't think the Castle is packed with kids. What about the Nags Head in Peckham Rye. Need I go on...

Do you really think that pubs that are raking it in, because they are full all day with parents spending decent amounts of money on food and drink, should ban kids just to suit you and your wish for somewhere quiet?

The fact a lot of these pubs are nicely appointed is because the owners can afford to do them up because they are full of families and not because they are quiet and empty (and therefore not making much money).


The great thing about living in East Dulwich is the choice and the family atmosphere. If you don't like the latter, exercise your choice and find somewhere quiet, empty, losing money and go there.

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Ha ha ha - I've family in Italy and lived in Spain and if you think children there who tend to stay up until midnight aren't tearing round bars, restaurants andrthe neighbourhood causing mayhem you are seriously deluded...if anything the comparison is that people in Europe tend to have a far more tolereant attititude to kids than people over here.


It's a dull old argument much repeated and there are plenty of people without kids who don't come out with the same old boring crap but do you think half the places - bars/cafes in ED you visit at the weekends /evenings would be open without the significant trade the "oh so lazy, loll about yummy mummy's" bring? but at the weekends they are just for the childless? As Hugenot says, the establishments rather than weekend drinkers no how valuable this trade is and so hence veery few exclkude them....they'd go bust.

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Wow, this is exactly what I'm talking about. As I said, for me it's nothing to do with children, I don't mind co-existing with kids at pubs, it's just a shame that alot of the parents seem rather obnoxious in their attitudes-thinking everyone including all pubs/restaurants SHOULD cater for their children and if they don't, they kick up a massive noise, and complain on this forum about places only having 1 highchair, or menus that don't cater for children. Maybe I'm being really judgemental and unfair and I apologise if I am because I'm not here to cause controversy or make enemies but that's just what I've observed. I've also lived in Spain but firstly it's a different culture and secondly there's a different kind of attitude from parents. Maybe you should move to Italy or Spain but you'ld probably complain about the lack of child friendly jobs and working hours.


I just get the feeling here that taking your children out is more about keeping up with the Jones's than anything else.It's not about being childless or not and I'm not asking pubs to ban children. What I'm saying is I bet if you actually asked the kids where they preferred to be they'ld probably prefer to be at home playing with their parents or their toys or running around outside than being amongst adults drinking their lattes. A real creche where you pay and the kids are amongst other kids is what my friends use when they want to go out. I know I certainly didn't lose out by not being taken to pubs or restaurants and I'm glad my mum would go out and get her downtime without us kids in tow.

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I just get the feeling here that taking your children out is more about keeping up with the Jones's than anything else




To be patronining and shouty, because that's all I can be with that response,,,


Going to pubs/cafes with kids is largely FOR THE PARENTS WHO ARE ENTITLKED TO GET OUT OR THEY'D GO FUCK*ING MAD..you haven't got a clue what it's like to have young kids and being told what to do with one's kids by the childless is like being lectured on how to park by someone whose never driven a car. Luckily, most people without kids do get this as indded most of us parents did when we were childless, yes we wwere there one day



If the biggest w*nkers in the places you go for a beer or to have a Coffee or a beer are kids and parenmts you must know some damn fine drinking establishments.....


A real creche where you pay and the kids are amongst other kids is what my friends use when they want to go out.


..what when they want a fooking pint at lunchtime or a quick cup of coffee....


FFS

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I hate to say it Zeban but what you are saying is out of touch and unrealistic.

Im glad we live in a modern society where mums and dads feel comfortable to take their children out and about and not have to put them in a "real creche". should we revert back to a victorian society? i know lets send little kids back up the chimneys

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You're obviously not reading my posts properly. I'm saying OF COURSE parents need to get out or they'ld go mad. I'm fully aware of that. Which is why my friends/my mum/my mums friends WITH children all put away time to do this without their children in tow. You go mad with your children always in tow or maybe that's what's so hard to admit- that sometimes you need a break away from your children.


My mum was a full time mother but she chose to take us to places that would be fun for us as youngsters- playgrounds, museums, parks, etc or play with us at home. She'ld wait to have her coffee when she got a sitter- no matter how desperate she might have been sometimes to have a coffee- sometimes being a parent is inconvenient to our own needs but we deal with those things because in the scheme of things it doesn't matter. And she was a single parent so was even more stressed and desperate for coffee! People choose to parent in different ways so don't you dare make this is about being childless. You talk about cliches but that's about the biggest cliche you could use. You might as well just say all people who choose not to have children are selfish!!!

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