X Factor

[*Bob*]

waynetta Wrote:

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?All in all I think that puts him way above

> the X factor sh1te.

Not so far above it as to 'not appear' on the show, thus endorsing 'said sh1te'.

I don't think you're likely to see eg Bowie etc on there anytime soon.

[DJKillaQueen]

No it doesn't...because they sing much better written songs sometimes written by bigger and more talented artists...and oh yeah...all his records sound the same......like 'bout now' says, you only need to listen to one.....or even to one guitar riff only......

[DJKillaQueen]

That's right *bob*....artists do turn down requests to appear and most of those that criticise the show would never be seen dead on it.....I can at least respect that.....

[*Bob*]

Actually I thought his new track was a remarkable departure from his last thirty-eight records.

He still can't sing very well though. And by God he's had enough practice. Close your eyes listening to his performance last Saturday and he's definitely 'in the bottom two'.

[waynetta]

well i like him :)

[*Bob*]

Any vote for 'best XF guest performance', amongst the dross?

Beyonc?, doing 'If I Were A Boy'.. was a cracker.

[Loz]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Any vote for 'best XF guest performance', amongst

> the dross?

>

> Beyonc?, doing 'If I Were A Boy'.. was a cracker.

It might have been, but fortunately I have Sky+ and I could skip it. I *hate* that song sooo much. The lyrics redefine 'pointless whining'.

[*Bob*]

I see.

Who were you fast-forwarding to? Alexandra Berk? Or Eoghan Quigg?

[DJKillaQueen]

I agree that Beyonce was awesome. That's what it's really all about. I thought Rihanna was good at the weekend too.

[waynetta]

You may do if he has a new album to plug.

[Loz]

> Who were you fast-forwarding to? Alexandra Berk? Or Eoghan Quigg?

The results, to see who gets to cry this week as their 'careers' return to manning the till at Burger King. Or in the case of 'Bellamy', wondering which one will lose all their clothes for Nuts/Zoo first.

There should be an ad: 'Sky+ - turns the X-Factor results show into the five minutes of television it is supposed to be'.

[Keef]

I do agree with Loz, the results show is very annoying, wouldn't be so bad if it was half hour, but they really do flog it.

[Jeremy]

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> Do a search on Dannii minogue...you'll see she's

> been in the music and TV business since the age of

> 8...like her sister. She fronted a major music

> show in Oz.....in fact, she has more years in the

> business than Simon Cowell. Don't underestimate

> her skills, knowledge and experience. She's a very

> smart lady.

This is a fucking joke, right?

[*Bob*]

Come on Jeremy.. Home & Away aside, you must have been to G-A-Y or watched ITV2 at some point or other?

[Jeremy]

I suppose you're right, Bob.

And let's not forget the children's show she apparently presented in Australia.

Unbelievable.

[DJKillaQueen]

She at least has been involved in the business all her life. You don't have to be a multi million album selling artist to know the business or even to be able to sing. However she does have a multi million album selling sister for the record.

After all, how many of you have ever sung in tune yet you feel qualified to know what this act ahould or shouldn't be doing. Simon Cowell on that level is less qualifed than her, and Louis just hasn't got a clue as series after series shows. It's just typical male bashing of the female Judges. She has a CV that more than qualifies her to mentor those acts.

And she is the only judge that always judges the vocal performance only when deciding which acts to vote off as well.

[waynetta]

Personally I don't think any of them are qualified to judge music and I couldn't care less if fans argue that Cowell has promoted million selling acts.

They've all been sh1te.

[*Bob*]

That's pants DJKQ.

This female judge in particular deserves bashing because this female judge sucks. I'm struggling to remember her ever - and I do mean 'ever' - managing any kind of response on XF worthy of interest (either technical or entertainment value). And no, "your pitching was a bit off" or "you nailed it" does not qualify.

Compare Nicole Scherzinger's brief spell on the show.. too good to last.

No - they need Dannii. They need her because she's boring. She's the boring one who sits between The Fool, The Pretty One and The Pantomime Villain.

[DJKillaQueen]

Syco and Talkback, last time I checked are making millions of profit every year so they probably know better than you I think.

Having said that...what exactly would make someone qualified to judge music....given that it's all subjective in the end anyway, and that most people, with hearing can tell the difference between a good singer and a bad one.

Cowell is head of a sucessful music publishing company - what better qualification than that?

[DJKillaQueen]

That's entertainment bob....you don;t have to watch it.

[*Bob*]

I do, unfortunately.

[Jeremy]

Dannii Minogue presented a children's variety show, acted in Home and Away, and followed it up with a string of minor hit singles. This somehow means she knows more about music and the music industry than Jay Kay?

I appreciate that you're sticking up for the women, and that's all well and good. But let's be honest with ourselves for a minute. The panel consists of two men who know the music industry, and two women who look the part, and are fairly well known.

[waynetta]

How can you slag off JK as a recording artist yet champion the grossly untalented Danni Minogue and the very very lucky right place at the right time opportunist Simon Cowell.

That beggars belief.

[DJKillaQueen]

Hang on...I am not declaring Dannii to be some great performing talent (and nor does she)...but she does know the business. You all conveniently forget that her sister is a mega star....you can't get closer to it than that. And yes JK has no versatility as a singer or song writer and only wears a hat because he's pig ugly. That's a very different thing to saying he doesn't know the business (which I haven't said) because he obviously does. One performs the other works behind the scenes...the two are different things, but both reap equal experience and knowledge.

[Jeremy]

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> You all conveniently forget that her sister is a mega star

I didn't forget it - I didn't mention it because I thought it was obvious. It is probably the weakest possible argument in her defence.