yet amother bus stand in Barry Road.

[Pugwash]

TFL have written to some local residents stating that from 20th November, they propose to change the 'night bus stand' - it operates from 11 pm - 8 am outside Barry House and Christ Church to a 24 hour stand. This means that disabled people using their cars to get to Christ Church, Fair Trade Centre and Bread of Life Caf? - will no longer be able to use cars. TFLs reasoning is that the crews need to use the welfare facilities which were installed in Barry Road when the bus stand was put in place.

There are no 'welfare facilities' for bus crews in Barry Road. There is a portaloo at the Friern Road stand which serves the stands in LL/Friern, Friern and Etherow Street. Bus drivers use the Plough Pub, Christ Church, the Library and Barry House. Neither of these premises are obliged to allow crews to use their loos as they are not customers or visiting the premises as part of their daily business.

If this stand goes ahead - will mean that the square of LL/Friern/Etherow/Barry will effectively become a large parking lot with additional fumes and noise pollution. Increased traffic as witnessed yesterday 2 buses waiting for lights changing in the stand area, another bus on the bend of the road, effectively blocked the road and a 197 turning from LL could not get through as insufficient space - the traffic was down to Goodrich Road.

If you wish to object to this idea please email stengagement@tfl.gov.uk with heading Barry Road Bus stand by 6th November.

Those parents who drive to St. Anthony's school will be affected as will users of Christ Church and St.Thomas More churches

[James Barber]

No they're not.

What they are proposing and I have objected to is that the exiting Bus Stand outside Christchurch (264 Barry Road) change is hours of operation from 11pm-8am to 24/7. They've made spurious reasons of being close to bus driver amenities. Which this bus stand isn't. The amenities are SW end of Friern Road - took me three years working with GLA AM Caroline Pidgeon to get them in place.

I've objected on the basis it would mean users of Christchurch couldn't be dropped there. Ideally we'd have a disabled parking bay there for example. The current hours work well around Christchurch.

With such less bus sand at night frankly this bus stand should be removed. But I'll work to stop its hours of operations extended first and then try and get it removed.

TfL are taking my objections away to consider.

[charlie.gl]

But where do you propose the bus stand goes instead?

[Bic Basher]

With the amount of bus turns from other routes, especially the 197 which has had to park in Lordship Lane because the stand isn't open, something has to be done, yet I agree the current spot outside the church isn't suitable.

The only solution I can see is for TfL to allow other routes to use the Friern Road/Lordship Lane 12 Bus stand which has four spaces for buses.

[James Barber]

Hi BB,

I don't think Bus Stands are allocated to particular bus routes. I don't recall seeing them labelled.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Where do you propose the bus stand goes instead?

[intexasatthe moment]

I'm not sure I understand what needs will be met by having the bus stand operatiobal during the day .Is more parking space needed for buses ?

[James Barber]

Hi ITATM,

That one of my feedback questions to TfL.

Why the sudden requirement?

The arguments originally given were spurious and showed they'd not visited the site.

[bawdy-nan]

Allocating a "correct" place to wait for the 12 and the 40, which both stop and start at this end of the lane, is probably a very good idea. but I thought there was an allocated area towards Friern Road on Lordship Lane. Without an allocated area buses park up in, often extremely dangerous places, for example, at the junction of Plough Lane and Lordship Lane, in the bus lane and on the double yellow lines. This happens fairly frequently.

[Bic Basher]

James Barber Wrote:

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> Hi BB,

> I don't think Bus Stands are allocated to

> particular bus routes. I don't recall seeing them

> labelled.

The LL and Friern Road stand is labelled for Route 12 only. It's a legacy from when the bendy buses used the stands.

Incidentally before the Bendies were introduced, the 12 and 40 used the stand together in Etherow Street, however the frequency of 12's were lighter than they are now.

[James Barber]

Thanks BB,

I'll try and get this changed. Amazing how I could pass so often and not see this.

[James Barber]

I've just had confirmation from TfL that they've dropped their request and plans.

So no changes will occur to the bus stand outside Christ Church 263 Barry Road

[EDresident123]

Thank you James!