ArtVandelay Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-352588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Halal ia cruel to animals. We have strict rules about how animals are slaughtered to make the killing as humane as possible yet pamper to religious nonsense for other animals. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-352594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Agreed. I can not believe the rules in this country to protect people and animals, but if you say you're doing something and you're religious, you can get away with stupidity and cruelty, as highlighted by DJKQ above.But hey, smart fellas who can wear turbans instead of motorcycle helmets. If you land on a soft pillow thing (turban) you may survive better than if you're head's in a helmet as the hardeness is on the outside, which is the wrong way round.But, back to topic, I can not believe how halal is allowed to be sold. It IS cruel and yet we pander to this religious nonsense in case we upset people. Pahhhh. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-352656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynetta Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Catch a Condor by simply building a wooden stockade 1 metre high and 50 metres in diametre, and placing a dead goat in the centre. The bird will land inside the stockade to feed on the goat but will then be unable to get out. This is because Condors require a run-up of at least 100 metres before they can gain the momentum necessary for take off. psThis is the most humane way to catch Condors. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-352704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArtfulDogger Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 DJKillaQueen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Halal ia cruel to animals. We have strict rules> about how animals are slaughtered to make the> killing as humane as possible yet pamper to> religious nonsense for other animals.I am totally confused now JQKD Are you implying that we now take the animals religion into account when we slaughter it ? Halal ChickensHindu CowsCoy Carp Church of England Steak and Kidney pies and my favourite Pigs that are Jewish (that must get confusing for them - do they put their Koppel's on before or after they visit the abbatiour ?)It sounds more like a script from Monty and his flying python (or similar) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 GRRR...yousa know I is sayin init...! lolAre you a religious dogger yourself? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArtfulDogger Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 DJKillaQueen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> GRRR...yousa know I is sayin init...! lol> > Are you a religious dogger yourself?Yes, I attend the Church of the Poison Mind at least once a year and without fail every 6 months I take a bath (regardless if I need it or not) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Have I missed something? By strict rules, do you mean the conditions in which most battery-farmed chickens are held and slaughtered for example?I'm not making any claims on behalf of kosher or halal slaughtering, and certainly not on the grounds of religious beliefs do I think inhumane practice should be excused, but this country has a long way to go before it can claim humane slaughter across the board Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 By slaughter I mean just that. We have rules designed to make it supposedly quick and painless (which are a far cry from cutting an animals throat and leaving it to hang and bleed to death). As the for the way we farm and keep some animals that's a whole different matter and one I agree is often anything but humane. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Ahem! There is no such thing as "crulty to animals." Cruelty to animals on the other hand is reprehensible and not very nice at all and should be punished severely. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosieH Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Ahem! It's "repehensible"? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Oh bugger - typo. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosieH Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Heh, sorry, am sooooo bored today. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 You and me both. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosieH Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I might pretend I have a meeting and go hunting cats. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 >I might pretend I have a meeting and go hunting cats.Get two and tie the tails together 8-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL9000 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I think official tolerance of ritual Kosher and Halal slaughter may be a matter of economic prudence (as much as anything else - such as anti-discriminatory) because a significant number of jobs depend on those markets. Britain now exports a fair volume of ritually slaughtered meat and poultry ? mainly Halal ? to Europe and the Middle East.If ritual slaughter were banned that entire industry sector would collapse. In which case, practicing Jews and Muslims would be more likely to import their requirements rather than become vegetarians. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 That's a very practical point (we could ban the import of halal, kosher etc however). From a moral perspective I care more about animal welfare than religious nonsense justifying cruelty. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 But in most cases non-halal meat in this country isn't slaughtered to any great standard is it? The "intention" might be there but in a way that's worse when it's so badly performedUK slaughter of poultry Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallulah71 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 RosieH Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Ahem! It's "repehensible"?*************************************************** Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL9000 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 DJKillaQueen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> we could ban the import of halal, kosher etcGiven the global news storm caused by a grumpy old yenta and a plain bagel - we'd never hear the end of that one! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 LOL indeed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12739-crulty-to-animals/page/2/#findComment-353550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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