Despicable Ruritanianism

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Correct. The EU will go for self preservation over any deal with us. This the most naive aspect of the leave argument, that we are somehow special. This empirical nonsense is establishment through and through. And it will be exposed over single market access.

[JohnL]

People saying on forums that Donald Tusk has now said article 50 is reversible.

1. Invoke it.

2. Brexiteers fail miserably in negotiations.

3. Brexiteers sacked.

4. Reverse it.

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I kind of think* there's a lot of pre-negotition grandstanding/positioning going on to be honest and compromises will be made

(*ok, hope)

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I agreed ????. Until the actual process begins and the talks start, we know nothing. I still think we'll end up with a Norway type deal, especially as the two years of talks takes us right up to the doorstep of the next GE. Most of the marginals that matter in the next GE voted leave. This has to be shaping the public government line on this. What happens in reality though is sometihng else.

[P.O.U.S.theWonderCat]

The "reversability" of Art. 50 has come up because it is a point of law that needs to be settled in the current legal proceedings against the government arguing that Art.50 must be triggered under an act of parliament rather than by the executive.

Basically, the Remainer claimants are arguing that the triggering of Art.50 is irrevocable, so effectively the government is using the royal prerogative to disenfranchise the UK people of their rights - something that constitutionally can only be done by Parliament. The government counsel has argued that Art.50 is reversible, which would undermine the claimants' argument.

I've not seen anything about Donald Tusk saying it is reversable, but as a point of law the only court which would have jurisdiction to decide whether it is or not, is, ironically, the ECJ.