Pierre Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Has anyone else spotted the caravans and vans parked up on the southern end of the Rye (near the skate park)? Any idea what's going on?Is it OK? I respect travellers' rights to roam around, but... on the Rye? It's a well-used public park. They're already leaving rubbish and driving across the grass.I've only seen them from the road so far, so haven't actually said hi to them - it may be a perfectly legit camp of some sort, I just wondered if anyone on here knew anything. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Maybe they've been moved on from the playing fields on the S Circ near the Old Alleynians RC ground as some facilities had to be closed last week. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelbyG Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 They've now moved into the empty Charter/Dulwich Hospital site behind our house. The police are on the scene but I've no idea if they can evict them immediately or not. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 That's what happens when you close a Hospital .. Pull down the buildings and leave the ground derelict for years.. whilst the land increases in value.. DulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marjoram Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 We overlook the Dulwich Hospital site. There are presently 8 vans parked, with more vehicles continuing to arrive. The fence was broken through for access. There appear to be several children playing on what must be unsafe land. I have spoken to Security at the hospital, also to the police who said that they attended the site, that they have already received many other calls, that the Council had also been informed, and that the only way that the travellers can be evicted is if the land owners get a Court Order. We intend to go to Helen Hayes MP's constituency surgery this Friday in East Dulwich to speak to her about it. We fully support the plans to redevelop the site, and we are very disappointed and concerned that the present traveller situation could delay this. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules-and-Boo Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 who owns the land? the new school's due to be built.also happy to add support in any way to ensure the school goes ahead without delays. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider69 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Did the same thing happen not so long ago? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marjoram Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I don't know who owns the land right now, but we hope the MP might have some information when we go to her surgery on Friday. The same thing did happen a while back, but the travellers broke in from East Dulwich Grove that time, and only a couple of vans got through. They were there for less than a week, and I never found out how they had been persuaded to leave. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 When is construction supposed to start on this land ?Is there a need to rush removing the travellers ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Back to the OP, Peckham Rye is public land, owned by Southwark Council as far as I know - surely there's a different process involved in moving the travellers on?Some nice bike tyre tracks across the grass, and piles of rubbish bags this morning. :( Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Pierre Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> >> piles of rubbish bags this morning. :(You'd rather they didn't bag up their rubbish? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules-and-Boo Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 KK - the 'rush' would be to clear the site so work can start on the new school building. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 OK Cheers J&B. I can understand that, if work is starting imminently. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules-and-Boo Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I believe it's due to start but not sure of dates. Either way, allowing a traveler's site to become more established would mean it's harder to clear later.... it would possibly get bigger too.While I'm not making comment about whether I think travelers should be there or not in general, it's better to nip it in the bud. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 It will be easier to move on a dozen travellers now than to wait 6 months and have to move on 120 travellers.. DulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Fair enough point, I do feel sorry for travellers too, though. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggers Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 three caravans on Peckham Rye South East section. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Sue Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Pierre Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > > > >> > piles of rubbish bags this morning. :(> > > You'd rather they didn't bag up their rubbish?No, I'd rather they carried their rubbish the less-than-100m to the nearest bin.They'll have problems if they stay for more than a month or so - the area where they're parked turns into a bit of a bog for most of late autumn and winter. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 KK you should try having them turn up in your classroom for a few days. Given that this country ALWAYS puts the pupils in their own age group regardless of their level of education, the disruption is unacceptable. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renata Hamvas Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Hi everyone, this has been reported. Council Officers have this in hand.Renata Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Are there no official sites in Southwark any more for travellers? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TE44 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 uncleglen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> KK you should try having them turn up in your> classroom for a few days. Given that this country> ALWAYS puts the pupils in their own age group> regardless of their level of education, the> disruption is unacceptable.That says more about the education in this country,Uncle Glen are you saying the disruptionis caused by travellers children not being ableto keep up with your level of teaching, Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbin Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Yes, that's obviously what he is saying isn't it?If its a problem that can be addressed it certainly should be. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 is caused by travellers children not being able to keep up with your level of teaching,Surely the issue here is that traveller's children's education is very disrupted (necessarily) and thus that they may well not be at an equivalent age level (in terms of what they have been taught) to children in regular education. This makes no judgement (as far as I can see) about innate ability, but rather more about actual time spent learning. The less time you have exposed to teaching, the further 'back' you might be expected to be. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TE44 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 All schools have a system in place for the manyChildren who cannot keep up with an institutionalLearning, for whatever reason the child has difficulties. A different kind of teaching does not reflect learning being neither behind or in front, it is merely different. I can see where itwould be difficult for both teacher and pupil, when child has been used to learning in a very different way. It just seems a shame our educationsystem make it hard to recognise and welcome instead of only seeing a problem. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/125796-travellers-on-peckham-rye-lounged/#findComment-1055942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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