Poisoned Dog from Peckham Rye Park

[Sue]

dimples Wrote:

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> so must have been caused by either fungi or even

> could have been something digested before coming

> into the park ?!

Big coincidence though if two dogs in a relatively short space of time were taken ill with similar symptoms shortly after being in the park, both having eaten something before they went into the park?

Possible, obviously.

[nxjen]

http://www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/council-quells-fears-dog-may-fatally-poisoned-walk-peckham-rye/

[civilservant]

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> http://www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/council-quells-fears-dog-may-fatally-poisoned-walk-peckham-rye/

?Rats take some time to die from ingesting it (normally dying from internal haemorrhage). That suggests that it may have been a far quicker acting toxin, or a mixture of toxins.?

if we agree it's not acceptable for dogs or cats to die like that, why is it ok for rats?

[Penguin68]

if we agree it's not acceptable for dogs or cats to die like that, why is it ok for rats?

Because they are unwelcome, disease carrying vermin? Just a thought.

[marisa_45]

Good gracious... what kind of people would leave (rat) poison that may harm other domestic animals..

Thank you for the warning, OP. I always watch for suspicious items on the path that my dog is likely to sniff or even try but I am not always able to keep him away from them. He's too energetic and when he decides to eat something, does it in the blink of an eye. He's always gets scolded in situations like these but the effect doesn't seem to last for long.

Glad to know that your friend's dog is OK after all!

[civilservant]

Penguin68 Wrote:

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> Because they are unwelcome, disease carrying

> vermin? Just a thought.

some people rate rats quite highly as pets. are you suggesting that these rats are different from the vulgar rats down the park that you'd happily allow to die horribly? just a thought.

[Mystic Mog]

Yes, agree that the inhumane destruction of any creature is abhorrent. I fear we may get comments from "experts" though!

[JohnL]

civilservant Wrote:

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> Penguin68 Wrote:

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> > Because they are unwelcome, disease carrying

> > vermin? Just a thought.

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> some people rate rats quite highly as pets. are

> you suggesting that these rats are different from

> the vulgar rats down the park that you'd happily

> allow to die horribly? just a thought.

It's hard to care for them - I wouldn't feel guilt chucking

a rat from my balcony - it'd probably survive anyway.

.. and yet when we all saw those baby Pandas it's awwww -

what we like and hate is ingrained, and it's not rats ;)

[Penguin68]

some people rate rats quite highly as pets.

Indeed, and these are bred from established blood lines -AND ARE VERY DIFFERENT from feral urban sewer (brown and back) rats - both carriers of (multiple) diseases (not their fault, but they are) and very destructive, which is - they will strip electrical insulation - causing fires - amongst other things. Feral urban sewer rats are simply in the wrong place - and getting rid of them is a necessity where they start to interact with us - which they do because we are their way of life. Very different from (large) field rats in e.g Vietnam, which are trapped and eaten.

[civilservant]

thanks, penguin, i appreciate that there are many different species of rat, and not all of them elicit an awww response. you also don't need to remind me of the disease risks etc.

i'm suggesting that that's no reason to use (or to countenance the use of) inhumane methods to kill them - just because they may be pests in certain environments.

my own dog is curled up on my lap as i type and i feel great sympathy for the family that have lost their poor dog in such a horrible way

my basic point is that we use dreadful methods to get rid of some 'undeserving' animals and put many of the rest at this kind of lethal risk. that is wrong, full stop. i don't want to hijack this thread, so that's me done, no more on this subject