People putting cones out to reserve parking spots

[Sue]

hollyc Wrote:

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> Perhaps hide a selection of amusing but faintly

> threatening items underneath the cones?

xxxxxxx

:))

[cate]

martin Wrote:

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> so does this mean the organic veg guy on

> northcross road who puts out cones is actually

> acting outside of the law and anybody can remove

> them and park there... and if he gets shirty the

> old bill can be called?

The florist shop also does the same thing.

[missus]

Yes but to be fair to those business', they reserve those spaces only during work hours solely because they need to and not for purely whimsical, selfish purposes. The cones are gone after 6 so I don't really think it's a fair to 'have a go at them' even if it is technically illegal....

[DJKillaQueen]

They still have no right to do it and if they want a reserved space they can pay the council for one. I've moved cones before to park. There's nothing the cone owner can do about it.

[The Minkey]

"Perhaps hide a selection of amusing but faintly threatening items underneath the cones?" - small gnomes masquerading as clowns.

[2Sheds]

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> No person legally can 'reserve' the public

> highway. Just move them to the curb and park. If

> cone owner comes out and protests tell them to do

> one or you'll call the Police......sorted.

That's not strictly true :-

*Buy a house with a large front garden.

*Knock the wall down and drive in!

*Bung the Council a few hundred pounds to drop the curb and paint a white line.

*Shout at anyone who dares park across your drive - even if your car's not there.

[DJKillaQueen]

LOL 2sheds....I think it costs more than a few hundred to have the curb dropped but yes a white line means no parking. Not the same as putting cones onto the road though :)

[HonaloochieB]

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> martin Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > so does this mean the organic veg guy on

> > northcross road who puts out cones is actually

> > acting outside of the law and anybody can

> remove

> > them and park there... and if he gets shirty

> the

> > old bill can be called?

>

> Yes. he has no legal right to reserve the public

> highway for his own use over others.

He sells nice produce, is called Chris Pretty and I reckon is far removed from the the person the OP was complaining about inasmuch as he is providing a service/running a business and should of course be allowed 'informally' and with the good will of the community to park up and unload his van.

Too many shagging personal vehicles in the burgh anyway, at least his serves a purpose.

*sits back, swigging down a 7UP while awaiting a post (or posts) containing the words 'in principle' 'in theory' and 'no legal right to use the public highway for his own use over others'*

[tropica]

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> LOL 2sheds....I think it costs more than a few

> hundred to have the curb dropped but yes a white

> line means no parking. Not the same as putting

> cones onto the road though :)

Bit of a side issue really as this thread should be about cones but, just in case anyone should take away the wrong idea about white lines in front of off-street parking; the white line is actually only advisory, it doesn't have any legal status. It is the drop kerb that makes it illegal to park in front of someone's driveway. It is illegal to park against a drop kerb wherever they exist - I wish more drivers would remember that when they park adjacent to drop kerbs at road junctions, thereby causing an obstruction for anyone using or pushing a wheelchair who wants to cross from one pavement to the next. Rant over. 2sheds is right; if you want to reserve the space in front of your house, spend approx ?1K to get a pavement crossing and drop kerb and no one can park there. I don't mind anyone putting out cones on occasion (we've all had a need at times) as long as they accept gracefully when they get moved.

[DJKillaQueen]

HonaloochieB Wrote:

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> He sells nice produce, is called Chris Pretty and

> I reckon is far removed from the the person the OP

> was complaining about inasmuch as he is providing

> a service/running a business and should of course

> be allowed 'informally' and with the good will of

> the community to park up and unload his van.

But why should he have special dispensation, from the 'community' of all people who don't own the highway either? What if every shop/ business put cones outside their premises preventing anyone else from parking somewhere they are legally allowed to park?....

If he wants a private parking space he has to pay for it, just like everybody else.

[katie1997]

HonaloochieB Wrote:

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> DJKillaQueen Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > martin Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > so does this mean the organic veg guy on

> > > northcross road who puts out cones is

> actually

> > > acting outside of the law and anybody can

> > remove

> > > them and park there... and if he gets shirty

> > the

> > > old bill can be called?

> >

> > Yes. he has no legal right to reserve the

> public

> > highway for his own use over others.

>

> He sells nice produce, is called Chris Pretty and

> I reckon is far removed from the the person the OP

> was complaining about inasmuch as he is providing

> a service/running a business and should of course

> be allowed 'informally' and with the good will of

> the community to park up and unload his van.

> Too many shagging personal vehicles in the burgh

> anyway, at least his serves a purpose.

>

> *sits back, swigging down a 7UP while awaiting a

> post (or posts) containing the words 'in

> principle' 'in theory' and 'no legal right to use

> the public highway for his own use over others'*

Poor HonaloochieB - didn't take long for someone to quote that (as you already predicted).

I hear what you're saying and I thoroughly agree. Providing a (valued) community service is a whole lot different from being a selfish, lazy motherfucker and putting cones outside your own house for personal use.

[intexasatthe moment]

Every time I go into Pretty Traditional there are different staff serving .

I wonder about the high turnover .

[HonaloochieB]

intexasatthe moment Wrote:

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> Every time I go into Pretty Traditional there are

> different staff serving .

> I wonder about the high turnover .

Perhaps they get fed up at not being able to park outside.

[dennis]

Would the gracious folk of EDF be equally accommodating to Mr Sainsbury if he coned off the area adjacent to his Dulwich Plough shop from 9 to 5pm ? Debatably he also provides a "valued community service".

[HonaloochieB]

dennis Wrote:

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> Would the gracious folk of EDF be equally

> accommodating to Mr Sainsbury if he coned off the

> area adjacent to his Dulwich Plough shop from 9 to

> 5pm ? Debatably he also provides a "valued

> community service".

Absolutely not, Mr Sainsbury would see a different side of the GF of ED.

In fact they would rise up as one and ride him out of town on a rail if he so much as looked as if he was thinking about considering such raw work.

Probably.

But Chris Pretty is part of the gracious folk posse and can park outside his shop all he wants.

[pk]

dennis Wrote:

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> Would the gracious folk of EDF be equally

> accommodating to Mr Sainsbury if he coned off the

> area adjacent to his Dulwich Plough shop from 9 to

> 5pm ? Debatably he also provides a "valued

> community service".

i agree with this - people don't run shops for the good of the community, they run them to make money for themselves

[HonaloochieB]

pk Wrote:

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> dennis Wrote:

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> > Would the gracious folk of EDF be equally

> > accommodating to Mr Sainsbury if he coned off

> the

> > area adjacent to his Dulwich Plough shop from 9

> to

> > 5pm ? Debatably he also provides a "valued

> > community service".

>

> i agree with this - people don't run shops for the

> good of the community, they run them to make money

> for themselves

The two needn't be mutually exclusive, though but.

[????]

Yeaaah, Local Businesses, F*ck em

[DJKillaQueen]

I never use Chris Petty's services and nor do the vast majority of local residents no doubt...so yes of course he should have a special privilege because a few people say so...that's like me saying my local newsagent should cone off the road outside his shop because he privides me with a service......he has NO automatic RIGHT to cone off the Road and I really can't understand why anyone thinks differently.

[????]

Cost of everything, value of nothing.......

[HonaloochieB]

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> I never use Chris Petty's services and nor do the

> vast majority of local residents no doubt...so yes

> of course he should have a special privilege

> because a few people say so...that's like me

> saying my local newsagent should cone off the road

> outside his shop because he privides me with a

> service......he has NO automatic RIGHT to cone off

> the Road and I really can't understand why anyone

> thinks differently.

I never said he had a right DJKQ, but he does it and I don't care that he does.

As for the vast majority of ED residents not using his shop, I'm glad the 'No Riff Raff' sign is working.

[HonaloochieB]

Quids, the No Riff Raff remark wasn't a dig at your former employer, by the way.

[????]

I wanna be a Cosmonaut ;-)

[DJKillaQueen]

HonaloochieB Wrote:

> As for the vast majority of ED residents not using

> his shop, I'm glad the 'No Riff Raff' sign is

> working.

What?...you mean riff raff can afford to live in ED? Damn get me an estate agent fast......;-)

[pk]

HonaloochieB Wrote:

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> I never said he had a right DJKQ, but he does it

> and I don't care that he does.

i agree with that:

does he have a right? no

does he do it for the community? no

is it worth me getting upset about? no, i don't care