Narnia Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Anyone know if you can get back into the country without one? My Mrs has just had her bag stolen in Barcelona including passport. Further complicated by her being Spanish though resident here for many years. She's due to fly back on Monday. Not much chance of that happening now methinks. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sazzle Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Sometimes they can use their discretion at the airport, i have known people prove their ID with a bank card and credible story and be let through, as she has had her bag stolen i am guessing she has no proof of ID of any kind?If so a visit/phone call to the embassy might be enough? Have you contacted travel insurers? Do you have a photo copy or scan of the document anywhere? Or the pasport number written down anywhere on any official documentation? this may also prove helpful.Also contact the airline in case they have her details logged from when she flew out there. They may be able to help. Good luck Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-337940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL9000 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Airlines don't usually disclose any information about passengers nor do they allow anyone to board without a passport. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-337948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsebox Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 She'll be fine. No problem at all. Tell immigration that The East Dulwich Forum said so. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santerme Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 My wife had her passport stolen in Italy last year.She has a Canadian passport....It involved a trip from Florence to Rome, a five day wait for relevant checks by the Canadian authorities and about $300 in fees.But on the up side, she had not been to Rome before and I was able to send her money by Western Union so she had an extended holiday effectively.Might be easier as an EU national.Hope you get it sorted. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Applespider Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Get to the police for a crime reference number and speak to the consulate who might be able to sort out an emergency one.Don't just turn up at the airport. There was a guy a few behind me at the check in queue at Barcelona a couple of years ago who was on the phone to his wife to tell her that he'd had his passport lost/stolen en route to the airport. He hadn't reported it yet or been to the consulate but expected to get on the flight. That was the last time we saw him - he wasn't on board.sazzle - I often just shown a bank card in lieu of photo ID while flying domestically but I'd be surprised if that worked on international flights, even EU ones. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narnia Posted July 4, 2010 Author Share Posted July 4, 2010 All is well it seems. As she is Spanish and in Spain they have an emergency system whereby she can be issued a new passport immediately for 20 euros. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 This exact same thing happened in Barcelona with Mr PR several years ago. A guy approached him in the main square and as his attention was taken someone came from behind and held his arms while the first guy stole his passport.He went to the police station and the police were sooooo blase as it happens all the time, and clearly as your sad posting proves, still does.He got a ref number from the police and spoke to someone at the airport and got home fine. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmora Man Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Surely, at least in theory, there are no border controls in the EU - and therefore no need to carry a passport as proof of ID. Ant form of acceptable identity should be sufficient - I've used a military ID card in the past. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL9000 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Not quite: the UK ?opted out of border control arrangements, while participating in certain provisions relating to judicial and police cooperation,? under the Schengen Agreement.On the other hand, immigration officials have a great deal of discretion regarding border control. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santerme Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Those were the days MM?10 space available to fly crab air to Washington on a NATO travel warrant.Which if you had a drawer full........................ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpetuousVrouw Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 EU nationals can cross all borders using any form of official photo ID, e.g. drving licence or national ID. They don't need a passport. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliviaDee Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 and i thought you were a girl narnia. (not that that helps your wife's current plight at all)though i am sure she is glad you're not a girl afterall. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 >EU nationals can cross all borders using any form of official photo ID, e.g. drving licence or national ID. >They don't need a passport.Only if the country is a member of Schengen and the UK is not:All EU countries are full Schengen members except for Bulgaria, Cyprus, Ireland, omania and the United Kingdom. You will therefore need to present a valid passport or ID card to travel to those five countries Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sazzle Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Hey Applespider, my housemates sister left her passport in our flat in paris and managed to fly home on the plane as planned. she did have her wallet so she may have had other photo id, but she defo did not have passport. Hope she gets home ok narnia! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 The rules used to be that provided UKBA agreed, the airline would fly you back and the Borders staff would check your identity on arrival. Some - in fact most - consulates could issue an emergency passport (which was an A4 sheet of paper) if needed. Some countries didn't accept this document for transit people, so they are changing.They are rolling out a new system that will issue an emergency travel document (like an 8 page mini passport) that is valid to complete your trip and get you home. The ability to fly back without any documentation will be removed. All embassies and consulates will have the ability to issue this document.EU nationals can cross all borders using any form of official photo ID, e.g. drving licence or national ID. They don't need a passport.That's not true. You need a valid passport or national ID Card. A driving licence won't be accepted. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narnia Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 Narnia Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> All is well it seems. As she is Spanish and in> Spain they have an emergency system whereby she> can be issued a new passport immediately for 20> euros.I should have known. They aren't THAT organised. Faxes from Barcelona to Madrid to London. I phone and Manuel in London can't talk to me about a third party.I've got to sit here all day making comments on threads I know nothing about. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Is she a dual nat? What passport did she travel on? If she travelled on a UK one, the British Embassy can help her out. It will help a lot if she has her passport number to hand. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Narnia, this will not help your wife's current situation one iota. However, for future trips - ensure you have a copy of the vital pages of your passport (as well as a copy of your credit cards, any EHIC card, any travel insurance, or any medical prescriptions). Needless to say, it is vital to keep the copies away from the originals. They will save you an awful amount of unnecessary grief should the worse happen in future.I hope your wife's experience didn't spoil her trip too much. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narnia Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 Just spoke to her. She was going to Rome tomorrow and Lisbon later in the week. She may have to skip Rome. Shit happens! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Ah que mierda! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narnia Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 Maybe she just doesn't want to come home! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 As I said: "Ah que mierda!"*attempts to look perfectly serious* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narnia Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 In my best Spanish Ladymuck..........feck off;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Even I know that's not Spanish...I've just returned from the Irish Festival - do you recall?I think the phrase you were looking for was "vete a la mierda"...my friend from Asturias taught me that one!:-S Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/12086-lost-passport-abroad/#findComment-338655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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