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JoeLeg

JoeLeg

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1922 commitee say there will be no more election, and Gove is backing May fully (no doubt hoping to keep hold of his job!).


So its basically a coronation now. We shall see what happens next, but personally I'm grateful it's been resolved fast, and glad that if we do have to Brexit, at least the person in charge is willing to slow it down enough to do it carefully.

DulwichFox

DulwichFox

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red devil Wrote:

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> So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected either

> by the Tory membership or the country as a whole.

> Brilliant!...


It happens.. Hitler was never elected.. Hindenburg got the majority vote. and the rest ia history.


Foxy

JohnL

JohnL

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Loz Wrote:

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> red devil Wrote:

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> > So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected

> either

> > by the Tory membership or the country as a

> whole.

> > Brilliant!...

>

> Same happened with Gordon Brown.



That went well :)

Loz

Loz

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DulwichFox Wrote:

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> red devil Wrote:

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> > So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected

> either

> > by the Tory membership or the country as a

> whole.

> > Brilliant!...

>

> It happens.. Hitler was never elected.. Hindenburg

> got the majority vote. and the rest ia history.


Not true Foxy. Hindenburg was indeed elected and appointed Hitler as Chancellor, but Hitler later won an election as the largest party, though needed to go into coalition to form government.

Otta

Otta

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Loz Wrote:

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> red devil Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected

> either

> > by the Tory membership or the country as a

> whole.

> > Brilliant!...

>

> Same happened with Gordon Brown.



It did. At that time Blair wanted to offload what was seen as a poisoned chalice. Compared to the state of the country right now, that poisoned chalice looks like a strawberry milkshake complete with ice cream.


May has said that what with Brexit negotiations to worry about, a GE would not be a good idea just now. But having not been voted for even by her party, I can't see how we can not have one within the year.

rendelharris

rendelharris

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Alan Medic Wrote:

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> So May will be PM. No election therefore. Does

> that mean it could happen now?


The parliamentary party have to decide whether or not to reinstate Gove (as second runner up in the last vote) and let the membership choose between them, I think they're meeting tomorrow. If they decide against rerunning the ballot, Cameron can go to the Queen any time at all, resign and ask her to confirm his successor. Most views I've seen today suggest he might wait until the end of this parliamentary session (July 21st) to give her a chance to set up her cabinet.

Earl Aelfheah

Earl Aelfheah

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rahrahrah Wrote:

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> red devil Wrote:

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> > So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected

> either

> > by the Tory membership or the country as a

> whole.

> > Brilliant!...

>

> It's called 'taking back control'


Unlike when Brown took over from Blair, we have not just a new PM, but effectively a completely new manifesto. We're also about to oversee the biggest changes to our constitution, legal system and all manner of associated regulations, than at any single time in our history. All of this to be undertaken by an unelected PM. Way to take back control / regain sovereignty.

rendelharris

rendelharris

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Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> Does that also create an opportunity for various

> people in the party to beg Boris to reconsider, do

> you think?


As far as I can see he wouldn't be allowed back in the contest, only Gove as second runner up. Nothing to stop Boris leaping in with a challenge to May's leadership once she's in any time he fancies of course, but surely such a loyal chap who puts the interests of the country first and foremost wouldn't risk further destabilisation?

Jenny1

Jenny1

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I agree with rahrahrah.


I'm mightily relieved that we're not getting Andrea Leadsom.


But I'm furious that the Conservatives (the party that sells itself as the guardian of stability and continuity) has, through careless government, created an unprecedented economic and constitutional crisis, which is likely to lead to the break-up of the UK, and is now presenting itself as a 'safe pair of hands' to navigate this storm of it's own creation.

DulwichFox

DulwichFox

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Loz Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

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> > red devil Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > So we'll have a PM that hasn't been elected

> > either

> > > by the Tory membership or the country as a

> > whole.

> > > Brilliant!...

> >

> > It happens.. Hitler was never elected..

> Hindenburg

> > got the majority vote. and the rest ia history.

>

> Not true Foxy. Hindenburg was indeed elected and

> appointed Hitler as Chancellor, but Hitler later

> won an election as the largest party, though

> needed to go into coalition to form government.


It was a bit like the Referendum.. lets a re-run .. and a bit of jiggling 'till I win..

It wasn't clean.

Remember Hitler spent time in prison..


In December 19, 1924, Adolf Hitler was released from Landsberg Prison.

He served eight months of a five-year sentence for high treason for his role in leading an attempted coup known as the Beer Hall Putsch.


Foxy

Loz

Loz

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DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Loz Wrote:


> > Not true Foxy. Hindenburg was indeed elected and

> > appointed Hitler as Chancellor, but Hitler later

> > won an election as the largest party, though

> > needed to go into coalition to form government.

>

> It was a bit like the Referendum.. lets a re-run

> .. and a bit of jiggling 'till I win..


No, not at all. Hitler's party won the most seats in all three elections before the Nazi's took over, but they didn't win enough seats to form government... and neither did anyone else. So they were reheld.


So more like Harold Wilson's minority government of 1974, where another election had to be held later in the year.

rendelharris

rendelharris

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Blah Blah Wrote:

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> I couldn't help but notice the similarities

> between May and Thatchers victory speeches. Ok so

> May didn't quote St. Francis of Assisi, but we all

> know what a false promise that turned out to be. I

> expect the same from May.


I am a bit scared now...


http://i.imgur.com/mTZ9YU5.jpg

Robert Poste's Child

Robert Poste's Child

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The really insidious bit is that Cameron, Boris, Farage and Gove all get to sit back and watch while the changes they were in various ways responsible for inciting are inflicted on the country, and at the same time Theresa May will legitimately claim it's not her fault as she voted Remain. So everyone gets to keep their hands clean. Which is nice.
Blah Blah

Blah Blah

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:D Brilliant reposte Rendel :D


Cameron, Boris, Farage and co will be looking at how best they can line their pockets from the market turbulance. Farage set up an offshore account two years ago, which he hasn't used as yet but..... I wonder what all the 'common' people who voted UKIP would make of that?

PennyDreadful

PennyDreadful

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Actions speak louder than words...here's a look at what Theresa May says and what she actually does: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/theresa-may-prime-minister-andrea-leadsom-policies-voting-record-human-rights-what-did-she-mean-a7130961.html

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